Guest Rob & Jin Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 To put the "Kitchen Sink" in some perspective.. it is NOT meant for only the interview, as randy pointed out.. it's so nothing has to be sent to the SO, including for the overcome. This was much more important over a year ago, before they changed the overcome process.. In the past, you could do overcome the next day, if you were truly prepared. That's not possible right now, so the original utility of the "Kitchen Sink" is washed a little down the drain... still a little confused on this, so do you think i should send ex wife/ divorce info as an attachment with p3 stuff, so they already have it. or just have it ready for possible overcome, as they wont accept the infomation at the interview, or will they? My personal opinion is, if it was not sent in as part of the original petition for USCIS to see and approve, I would not give it to DOS at any step until they actually ask for it... Since it's on one of their documents as needed, it should definitely be on hand at the interview. Of course, cases different and this is a general comment. Hi David,So if they had questions or concerns they will accept it at the interview or would it be a blue slip then a overcome? Rob Link to comment
Randy W Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 My personal opinion is, if it was not sent in as part of the original petition for USCIS to see and approve, I would not give it to DOS at any step until they actually ask for it... Since it's on one of their documents as needed, it should definitely be on hand at the interview. Of course, cases different and this is a general comment.Hi David,So if they had questions or concerns they will accept it at the interview or would it be a blue slip then a overcome?Rob Yes - one or the other. If they allow her to turn it in, that's good. If not, it will be a blue slip and overcome. It's the VO's choice as to which. Link to comment
Guest Rob & Jin Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 (edited) My personal opinion is, if it was not sent in as part of the original petition for USCIS to see and approve, I would not give it to DOS at any step until they actually ask for it... Since it's on one of their documents as needed, it should definitely be on hand at the interview. Of course, cases different and this is a general comment.Hi David,So if they had questions or concerns they will accept it at the interview or would it be a blue slip then a overcome?Rob Yes - one or the other. If they allow her to turn it in, that's good. If not, it will be a blue slip and overcome. It's the VO's choice as to which. haha, what a crazy system, funny my attourney did not say anything about including it with the petition so it wouldn't be a issue later, maybe it wont who knows!! but it seems to be this year. Edited August 31, 2007 by Rob & Jin (see edit history) Link to comment
david_dawei Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 My personal opinion is, if it was not sent in as part of the original petition for USCIS to see and approve, I would not give it to DOS at any step until they actually ask for it... Since it's on one of their documents as needed, it should definitely be on hand at the interview. Of course, cases different and this is a general comment.Hi David,So if they had questions or concerns they will accept it at the interview or would it be a blue slip then a overcome?Rob Yes - one or the other. If they allow her to turn it in, that's good. If not, it will be a blue slip and overcome. It's the VO's choice as to which. haha, what a crazy system, funny my attourney did not say anything about including it with the petition so it wouldn't be a issue later, maybe it wont who knows!! but it seems to be this year. There are alot of US Consulates and embassies around the world.. unless they have direct experience and follow the nuiances and changes at GUZ, not many lawyers would really think about this. In fact, the idea origins with a lawyer who has written on denials, etc... and the logic of it is fairly sounds, but it's still in a "proof of concept" in my book: we've never seen anyone do it... and the fact is, again, all cases are different, for some it would be completely unnecessary and for others it could be helpful. The risk is jumping the gun and giving them unrequested info which could raise some issue. One has to know their own case and has to make the best judgement calls through; The minimum advice is always: Be honest and give them what they ask for...whether once, twice, or three times... Link to comment
Guest Rob & Jin Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 My personal opinion is, if it was not sent in as part of the original petition for USCIS to see and approve, I would not give it to DOS at any step until they actually ask for it... Since it's on one of their documents as needed, it should definitely be on hand at the interview. Of course, cases different and this is a general comment.Hi David,So if they had questions or concerns they will accept it at the interview or would it be a blue slip then a overcome?Rob Yes - one or the other. If they allow her to turn it in, that's good. If not, it will be a blue slip and overcome. It's the VO's choice as to which. haha, what a crazy system, funny my attourney did not say anything about including it with the petition so it wouldn't be a issue later, maybe it wont who knows!! but it seems to be this year. There are alot of US Consulates and embassies around the world.. unless they have direct experience and follow the nuiances and changes at GUZ, not many lawyers would really think about this. In fact, the idea origins with a lawyer who has written on denials, etc... and the logic of it is fairly sounds, but it's still in a "proof of concept" in my book: we've never seen anyone do it... and the fact is, again, all cases are different, for some it would be completely unnecessary and for others it could be helpful. The risk is jumping the gun and giving them unrequested info which could raise some issue. One has to know their own case and has to make the best judgement calls through; The minimum advice is always: Be honest and give them what they ask for...whether once, twice, or three times... yes i'm sure your right, time will tell, any way in 2008 they might be looking at something else in more detail then ex's current address, who knows Link to comment
Rickmt57 Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 I had been married more the once before I met my Chinese wife, I made sure my wife new as much as possible bout my previous marriages incase she was asked at the interview. I did not know the where abouts of my last ex wife but I gave my wife as much information as possible. I wrote a letter for her to take to the interview with her from me to the interviewer explaining our relationship and a brief history of my past. Just incase you wife or fiance is asked she better know as much as possible or it will look like she may be hidding something. My previous marriages were a concern I thought it may keep us from a pink slip but when my wife was asked questions at her interview she had the answers. This is the approach we took and it worked for us. Link to comment
warpedbored Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 In my opinion adding the information about your ex could raise more questions than it answers. It may just make them more suspicious. I tend to go along with David. Give them what they have to have and take the rest with you. You may get a blue slip and they may refuse to look at what they blue slip you for even if you have it with you. At least you know where it is and don't have to scramble for it to file an overcome. Link to comment
Guest Rob & Jin Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 In my opinion adding the information about your ex could raise more questions than it answers. It may just make them more suspicious. I tend to go along with David. Give them what they have to have and take the rest with you. You may get a blue slip and they may refuse to look at what they blue slip you for even if you have it with you. At least you know where it is and don't have to scramble for it to file an overcome. Ok i go with your experience, Jin knows everything , more than my closest friends. to tell you the truth she has read 001 back to front, is reading here now too, she is far more calm than i am, very funny Link to comment
warpedbored Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Conventional wisdom here says that confidence at the interview is a huge factor. VOs smell fear. Link to comment
chilton747 Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Conventional wisdom here says that confidence at the interview is a huge factor. VOs smell fear. Fear OR nervousness. Believe me I know Link to comment
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