I-693 Supplement

[hankster]

Just got back from the CS.

She signed wife and stepson's I-693 Supplement, but she checked the box under item 3. as:

(X) Applicant does not meet immunization requirements.

I argued, but the CS said that since they had not had all rounds of Vaccinations, she must check this box.

They've both had the initial rounds of Td, MMR and Varicella, which the CS noted in the "Vaccine History Transferred from a Written Record"

anyone had this box checked?

 

Will USCIS accept this?

Thanks,

Hank

[jim_julian]

Hmmm ... that's not what they usually do but I don't have direct experience on the USCIS reaction.

 

I'd almost be tempted to find another CS who will fill it out without that check and toss the first one.

[Randy W]

Hmmm ... that's not what they usually do but I don't have direct experience on the USCIS reaction.

 

I'd almost be tempted to find another CS who will fill it out without that check and toss the first one.

Exactly - I don't think you should submit the one you got.

[tywy_99]

Why would the CS do that if you have proof of the required vaccinations? It doesn't make any sense. Maybe you should cut your losses and find another CS. The whole procedure shouldn't be that big of a deal.

[david_dawei]

some CSs (I should say very rarely) expect the second course of some immunizations... which need to occur 28 days after the initial one.

 

If your after 28 days of first course, you could go get the second round of MMR (should be the only one really)... then go back to the CS... I would confirm with CS this is only issue beforehand and they will sign.

 

Otherwise, as others are stating, you could go to another CS, but that might not be the lesser of two evils.... waiting for another appointment and paying full price again...

 

BTW: I explain this issue in the FAQ

[hankster]

some CSs (I should say very rarely) expect the second course of some immunizations... which need to occur 28 days after the initial one.

 

If your after 28 days of first course, you could go get the second round of MMR (should be the only one really)... then go back to the CS... I would confirm with CS this is only issue beforehand and they will sign.

 

Otherwise, as others are stating, you could go to another CS, but that might not be the lesser of two evils.... waiting for another appointment and paying full price again...

 

BTW: I explain this issue in the FAQ

Thanks,

Can anyone provide a USCIS or CDC link that specifically states that the first round of vaccinations is sufficient for the CS to sign off on for USCIS requirements?

This CS accepted the fact that a physical wasn't needed after I showed her the I-485 instructions about K visas. I feel if I can show her this information then she will sign off on the I-163 supplement.

Thanks

[david_dawei]

I just re-checked the sources I had... and confirms as I thought.. this appears to be a discretionary issue. The form has multiple blocks to fill in history (ie: or multiple courses).

 

It's up to the CS, how they define "immunized"... for a few, one course is not fully immunized; it makes sense on a certain level...

 

Just ask them exactly what second course you need (I suspect only MMR)... Honestly, to get the second course is best anyways. JMO.

[hankster]

I just re-checked the sources I had... and confirms as I thought.. this appears to be a discretionary issue. The form has multiple blocks to fill in history (ie: or multiple courses).

 

It's up to the CS, how they define "immunized"... for a few, one course is not fully immunized; it makes sense on a certain level...

 

Just ask them exactly what second course you need (I suspect only MMR)... Honestly, to get the second course is best anyways. JMO.

 

Thanks, David, and I plan on her having the full course, but in this case, my wife is not due the second course, yet.

It's been only 2 weeks since she had her first Td, MMR and Varicella at the county Health department.

 

I think you're right about how this CS defines "immunized".

Looks like I'll have to find another CS.

I do plan on sending an email asking if the CS will sign off after lao po receives her second shot, which according to the health department is due in 2 weeks.

I got blindsided yesterday, thinking the CS had signed off, but on second glance, I noticed she had checked the "does not meet immunization requirements". I argued, but to no avail and she was out the door. Wish now I had refused to pay.

[david_dawei]

The other option is to just file AS-IS... and get it in the queue... and get the signoff in two weeks... have it ready to send in as an RFE if USCIS asks for it. Not sure I would do this, but always an option.

 

I personally would do the second course and get the same CS to just sign it.. Your likely to wait longer than two weeks for another CS and have to pay again. Hopefully there is no charge for first CS to sign again... ask that as well...

[hakkamike]

I've read several comments about getting only what is absolutely required to get the document signed. I'd argue that getting our wives immunized to diseases that are common in the US is a very good idea. Whether Xiahong needed them or not, we went ahead with the full series since it does no harm. Chicken Pox in an adult is pretty ugly and can be life threatening. If they are around any children, you can bet they will be exposed. Why take a chance?

 

In the current instance, I think the CS is wrong. Their job is to only check the immunizations that are medically recommended. One of the series, I think Varacella, is three shots a month apart. Is the intent to wait three months for the full series before signing off? I don't think so.

I guess the thing to do is file before the price increase that is July 31st, let them kick it back to you if need be and send in the corrected I-693. Or you can always try a different Civil Surgeon, you may be surprised , they are all different in what they want as far as vaccinations. Or you can just wait until your wife has all her shots in order and then file

Edited June 8, 2007 by hakkamike (see edit history)

[notrevorich]

I've read several comments about getting only what is absolutely required to get the document signed. I'd argue that getting our wives immunized to diseases that are common in the US is a very good idea. Whether Xiahong needed them or not, we went ahead with the full series since it does no harm. Chicken Pox in an adult is pretty ugly and can be life threatening. If they are around any children, you can bet they will be exposed. Why take a chance?

 

In the current instance, I think the CS is wrong. Their job is to only check the immunizations that are medically recommended. One of the series, I think Varacella, is three shots a month apart. Is the intent to wait three months for the full series before signing off? I don't think so.

I guess the thing to do is file before the price increase that is July 31st, let them kick it back to you if need be and send in the corrected I-693. Or you can always try a different Civil Surgeon, you may be surprised , they are all different in what they want as far as vaccinations. Or you can just wait until your wife has all her shots in order and then file

 

I would not send it in with the present form - I would nevr chance that and have who knows how long of a delay

I vote for you to find another CS and also get the vaccinations - they are a good idea and are cheap insurance over your loved one contracting a preventable disease.

[lostinblue]

I would not send it in with the present form - I would nevr chance that and have who knows how long of a delay

I vote for you to find another CS and also get the vaccinations - they are a good idea and are cheap insurance over your loved one contracting a preventable disease

 

Just went to the CS today..Yan had one round of shots and a blood test for varicella.(from the health department) He signed the form and charged us $35.00 (Thanks dnoblett he was a real nice man to work with)This is a sealed form to send in . Am I correct in reading that it should be sealed . He seemed to know what he was doing as he cautioned us that some people have had the medical papers lost while in transit from K process to AOS and would need full medical if that happens. I have no Idea what he checked. He said that Buffalo would charge $100 for K visa's He would do full medical for $100 and Buffalo would charge $500.00

Edited June 12, 2007 by lostinblue (see edit history)

[dnoblett]

I would not send it in with the present form - I would nevr chance that and have who knows how long of a delay

I vote for you to find another CS and also get the vaccinations - they are a good idea and are cheap insurance over your loved one contracting a preventable disease

 

Just went to the CS today..Yan had one round of shots and a blood test for varicella.(from the health department) He signed the form and charged us $35.00 (Thanks dnoblett he was a real nice man to work with)This is a sealed form to send in . Am I correct in reading that it should be sealed . He seemed to know what he was doing as he cautioned us that some people have had the medical papers lost while in transit from K process to AOS and would need full medical if that happens. I have no Idea what he checked. He said that Buffalo would charge $100 for K visa's He would do full medical for $100 and Buffalo would charge $500.00

Yes the doctor in Rochester seemed fair, and yes it was in a sealed envelope, I just wrote on the envelope what was in side.