Chinese nurse

[kangjie]

Not sure if this is the right forum. Feel free to move it.

Can a nurse in china work in the USA without any additional training(other than English) ?
I am wondering why we don't see more foriegners in this profession since it is such a high demand job or maybe there are but I just don't know about it. Just curious

[dnoblett]

I am no expert on this even though I work at a college with a nursing school.

I did find this in a quick search, it may answer your question.

 

http://www.cgfns.org/

[ameriken]

My guess, and it is only a guess, is that the college/training/internship/experience requirements in China may be quite different than here in the US, and a nurse likely will need to do something further here.

 

For example, would the college studied at and the degree earned be the equivelant to the degree here? (In the US, a 4 year Bachelors degree in nursing is required to be an RN, 2 years for LPN). Will state licensing requirements accept the degree earned in China or will the nurse need further schooling? If the nurse is required for further schooling, how many, if any, credits are transferrable?

 

I am thinking that the nurse definitely will need more schooling and/or training before being able to work in the US. Probably, the place to start would be the state licensing agency in the nurses state government to find out the requirements, and then go further to find out if his/her schooling and degree are acceptable and/or transferrable here in the US.

Edited March 31, 2007 by ameriken (see edit history)

[Dennis143]

The Philipines are a huge recruiting ground for bringing nurses over to the US. Many and most of our hospitals and clinics in LA are now populated with Philipino nurses. Of course, they have an advantage with having English as their primary language too.

 

During my wife's hospital stays last year, I spoke with several Chinese nurses. They all attended and graduated through the many nursing programs offered at our local colleges. They gave me the impression that China does not have US nursing accreditation that the Philipines have and that they'd have to start at the beginning of their education and training once here.

[tonado]

It depends on the State. My friend's wife took 2 years of nursing classes at Bunker Hill College in MA (from the movie Good Will Hunting). Then she had to pass the state exam for a RN license. She is a RN now at a local hospital.

Edited April 1, 2007 by tonado (see edit history)

[SinoTexas]

This is pulled from the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston Q and A page .UTMB School of Nursing

 

A friend of mine works in addmissions there. She said it varies by state.

 

Can I transfer from UTMB's School of Nursing if I have a degree from another country?

In order to be considered an applicant for the School of Nursing, if you have credits from outside the USA, you must submit your transcripts to a foreign translation evaluation company, such as SpanTran, for a course-by-course evaluation. Both your original transcript and the foreign translation evaluation may then be submitted to the Preadmission Advisor for evaluation. You may fax these documents to 409-772-0395.

 

 

Do I have to take the Test of English at a Foreign Language (TOEFL) ?

If you were born in a country outside the USA, you must take the TOEFL. You must score at least 550 to be considered for entry into the School of Nursing. If you have earned a Bachelor of Science in Nursing degree from an accredited US university, the TOEFL requirement will be waived.

 

As aye,

 

Jim

[Randy W]

from http://www.studentdoc.com/nursing-degree.html

 

 

LPN - Licensed Practical Nurse or LVN - Licensed Vocational Nurse

 

Training for LPNs lasts about 1 year, and includes both a classroom segment and a patient-care segment. LPNs are licensed by each state, so requirements vary by location. The LPN provides general care for patients, including taking vital signs, changing wound dressings, basic phlebotomy, and daily intake-outtake monitoring.

 

According to the US Dept.of Labor Statistics most new LPN jobs will from nursing care facilities. However, it is also appears that hospital jobs for LPNs will be decreasing. On balance, demand for LPNs is expected to decrease in the coming years.

 

The median salary for LPNs in 2002 was $31,440, with the top 10% making $44,040 or more, and the bottom 10% making less than $22,860.

 

RN - Registered Nurse

 

There are three different nursing degrees that lead to an RN. To become an RN, nurses need to graduate from a 4-year Bachelor of Sciences in Nursing (BSN), an Associates of Nursing (ADN), or a Nursing Diploma program offered by hospitals. In addition, there is a national licensing exam (the National Council Licensure Examination - NCLEX-RN exam).

 

Because the RN nursing degree has a national licensing component, it is easier to get licensed in multiple states. As a result, RNs are heavily recruited for travel nursing positions.

 

According to the Dept. of Labor Statistics, RNs will be in heavy demand for the foreseeable future. More new RN nursing jobs are expected to open up than any other type of job. Given the recent tightening of restrictions on foreign nurses entering the US, demand for RNs will grow even stronger.

 

The median nursing salary for an RN is $48,090 (as of 2002, US DLS), with the top 10% making more than $69,670 a year. Because of the broad range of jobs that an RN can take, salaries widely by job description.

[ndjarrett]

Check out this website http://www.cgfns.org/

 

Yaya will be doing this someday. If she can pass the English skills test and the Nursing skills test...then she just needs to go take the NCLEC and she's got her Rn license here.

[Dan R]

The Philipines are a huge recruiting ground for bringing nurses over to the US. Many and most of our hospitals and clinics in LA are now populated with Philipino nurses. Of course, they have an advantage with having English as their primary language too.

 

During my wife's hospital stays last year, I spoke with several Chinese nurses. They all attended and graduated through the many nursing programs offered at our local colleges. They gave me the impression that China does not have US nursing accreditation that the Philipines have and that they'd have to start at the beginning of their education and training once here.

 

The Philipines is a special situation. The United States during Marcos's regime made a deal to recognise two Nursing schools as U.S. equivalent. This means they can apply for certification and jobs while in the Philipines and get work visas to come here. Part of the deal also allowed them to take civil service exams for low level federal jobs.

 

As far as I know this was never changed.

 

Like China, Philipine families send daughters overseas to earn money and support the rest of the family. They are both major low level work force in places such as Singapore, Japan, US, England and elsewhere that has developed to the point that their young people want to start out in higher end or less demanding jobs.

Edited April 4, 2007 by Dan R (see edit history)

[kangjie]

Good Replys all!!!

I have this idea in my head. A nursing home/village that incorparates Eastern and Western modes of medicine and treatment. I think the baby boomers are not going to be happy with living there final days in the these current models of nurseing home we have. The second thing ( and some people who have recently had parents in one of these can attest) the staffing in these places is sometimes very poor and has a high turnover.

The other idea is just because of the staffing shortage of good nurses this seems like a prime route over for many Chinese.

[kangjie]

Check out this website http://www.cgfns.org/

 

Yaya will be doing this someday. If she can pass the English skills test and the Nursing skills test...then she just needs to go take the NCLEC and she's got her Rn license here.

 

 

She was trained in nurseing in China ? Can she compare her training to american training?. I am interested in hearing how she does

[Dennis143]

Good Replys all!!!

....and some people who have recently had parents in one of these can attest) the staffing in these places is sometimes very poor and has a high turnover.

To further your point:

http://www.kare11.com/news/national/nation...?storyid=250421

[kangjie]

Good Replys all!!!

....and some people who have recently had parents in one of these can attest) the staffing in these places is sometimes very poor and has a high turnover.

To further your point:

http://www.kare11.com/news/national/nation...?storyid=250421

 

Mind boggling but all to common. My guess is that this will get worse.

[ndjarrett]

Check out this website http://www.cgfns.org/

 

Yaya will be doing this someday. If she can pass the English skills test and the Nursing skills test...then she just needs to go take the NCLEC and she's got her Rn license here.

 

 

She was trained in nurseing in China ? Can she compare her training to american training?. I am interested in hearing how she does

 

Yes...she went to a nursing school in Kunming and was actually a registered nurse at the hospital there. IF she ever gets brave enough to take the tests (lol) we will post how it all went. Right now, she does not think her English is yet good enough. I thinks its good enough for the "English" test. But not good enough (not enough medical words yet) for the "skills" tests. Nice thing is, once she decides to take the test...if she doesn't pass...they supposedly tell her what classes she can take and she has two years to try to retake & pass the test. For now, she passed CNA classes/test and is trying to get CNA job in hospitals here in Memphis. That way, she can get used to more of the terminology as well. And, some bigger hospitals, are rumored to be able to help transfer the license over here too (we will see about that).

Edited April 12, 2007 by ndjarrett (see edit history)

[kangjie]

Check out this website http://www.cgfns.org/

 

Yaya will be doing this someday. If she can pass the English skills test and the Nursing skills test...then she just needs to go take the NCLEC and she's got her Rn license here.

 

 

She was trained in nurseing in China ? Can she compare her training to american training?. I am interested in hearing how she does

 

Yes...she went to a nursing school in Kunming and was actually a registered nurse at the hospital there. IF she ever gets brave enough to take the tests (lol) we will post how it all went. Right now, she does not think her English is yet good enough. I thinks its good enough for the "English" test. But not good enough (not enough medical words yet) for the "skills" tests. Nice thing is, once she decides to take the test...if she doesn't pass...they supposedly tell her what classes she can take and she has two years to try to retake & pass the test. For now, she passed CNA classes/test and is trying to get CNA job in hospitals here in Memphis. That way, she can get used to more of the terminology as well. And, some bigger hospitals, are rumored to be able to help transfer the license over here too (we will see about that).

 

I'm in Little Rock so we are not to far from each other. My So is in shenzhen and is waiting for her P3 right now.

Are there many Chinese living in Memphis ? I know there is a small china town in Dallas area but would be nice to find one closer