134 form for K1 do i need to include W2's?

[tywy_99]

good distinct to make for the I-134.. I think the income tax forms requirements for the I-864 have fallen into the I-134 realm for some reason.. just as the 125% issue has.

 

In fact, for the I-134, only 100% of poverty level is needed to be covered for I-134...

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David, OF-167(Rev. 6-91) that goes out in P3 gets fairly specific about the evidence they require for the I-134, it's an oldy but a goodie.

 

The wording is vague enough and could be interpreted to include the W-2. This is also where getting the tax form notarized comes from.

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Where does it read on the OF-167 that all these are "required?"

The only keywords I read about attachments of evidence are "should" and "substantiate."

 

If one has a steady job than a letter of employment "should" suffice, however, don't take any chances and do include a copy of the latest tax return, minus the w-2. Or, as mentioned already, use the "kitchen sink method." Wherever one's comfort zone lies, or to put it bluntly, " whatever floats yur boat!"...

[david_dawei]

good distinct to make for the I-134.. I think the income tax forms requirements for the I-864 have fallen into the I-134 realm for some reason.. just as the 125% issue has.

 

In fact, for the I-134, only 100% of poverty level is needed to be covered for I-134...

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David, OF-167(Rev. 6-91) that goes out in P3 gets fairly specific about the evidence they require for the I-134, it's an oldy but a goodie.

 

The wording is vague enough and could be interpreted to include the W-2. This is also where getting the tax form notarized comes from.

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Where does it read on the OF-167 that all these are "required?"

The only keywords I read about attachments of evidence are "should" and "substantiate."

 

If one has a steady job than a letter of employment "should" suffice, however, don't take any chances and do include a copy of the latest tax return, minus the w-2. Or, as mentioned already, use the "kitchen sink method." Wherever one's comfort zone lies, or to put it bluntly, " whatever floats yur boat!"...

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I stated earlier the same conclusion about the employment based on the wording I read... but I do think we can get caught mincing words a little too. So I'll mince some more...

 

Here's my general read of OF-167, which seems to support the idea that a I-134 is not needed at all, and probably expected only for a friend or relative who is trying to help:

 

The OF-167 states the requirement in the first two paragraphs, that the applicant must establish to the satisfation of the CO that they will not become a public charge via:

1) Personal funds (bank statements, assets,etc)

2) Income (employment letter)

3) Help from family and friends (they act as a sponsor and use I-134)

4) Combination of the above

 

Again, the CO can 'request' anything to help meet their statisfaction level... and this would include asking for a I-134 if they deemed it necessary... as the 9 FAM comments below show.

 

 

9 FAM 41.81 N4 Documentary Requirements

http://foia.state.gov/masterdocs/09fam/0941081N.pdf

 

b. K-1 and K-3 applicants are subject to INA 212(a)(4) and must

demonstrate to the consular officer's satisfaction that they will not become a public charge. The Form I-864, Affidavit of Support Under Section 213 A of the Act cannot be required.

 

Applicants may submit a letter from the petitioner's employer or evidence that they will be self-supporting. The Form I-134, Affidavit of Support, may be required when the consular officer deems it useful.

[frank1538]

To quote Sarah Vaughn: "Whatever Lola wants, Lola gets". If GZ wants an I-134, you'd be very foolish to try to convince them that they don't need it. You may be right technically, but I wouldn't try it.

[david_dawei]

To quote Sarah Vaughn:  "Whatever Lola wants, Lola gets".  If GZ wants an I-134, you'd be very foolish to try to convince them that they don't need it.  You may be right technically, but I wouldn't try it.

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100% agreed... it only explains why people can get a visa without having been asked for it...

 

Earlier today, I traced down a fillable version of the I-134.. shows you what my decision already is !

 

A pound of regs won't out weight a single form!

[Guest Gene]

Earlier today, I traced down a fillable version of the I-134.. shows you what my decision already is !

 

A pound of regs won't out weight a single form!

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David,

 

Visapro has all of the USCIS and DOS forms in fillable format if there are others that you want.

[Dan R]

Boy was that a good musical! Maybe we could use Whatever Guzee wants as our theme song.

 

Whatever Lola Wants

Sarah Vaughan

 

Whatever Lola wants, Lola gets

And little man, little Lola wants you

Make up your mind to have

(Make up you mind to have)

No regrets (no regrets)

Recline yourself

Resign yourself, you're through

 

I always get, what I aim for

And your heart and soul

Is what I came for

 

Whatever Lola wants (Lola wants)

Lola gets (Lola gets)

Take off your coat

Don't you know you can't win

You're no exception to the rule

I'm irresistible you fool .. give in

(Give in, you'll never win)

 

Whatever Lola wants

Lola gets

 

---- Instrumental Interlude ----

 

I always get, what I aim for

And your heart and soul

Is what I came for

 

Whatever Lola wants (Lola wants)

Lola gets (Lola gets)

Take off your coat

Don't you know, you can't win

 

You're no exception to the rule

I'm irresistible you fool ... give in

(Give in, you'll never win)

 

Give in (give in, you'll never win)

Give in (give in, you'll never win)

 

Another good one was, You've got to have heart

 

Van Buren:

You gotta have heart

All you really need is heart

When the odds are sayin'

You'll never win

That's when a grin

Should start.

You gotta have hope

Mustn't sit around and mope

Nothin's half as better as it may appear

Wait'll next year

And hope.

When your luck is battin' zero

Get your chin up off the floor.

Mister you can be a hero

You can open any door,

There's nothin' to it,

But to do it

You've gotta have heart

Miles 'n' miles 'n' miles of heart,

Oh, it's fine to be a genius of course,

But keep that old horse before the cart,

First you've gotta have heart.

 

Rocky:

A great slugger, we haven't got

Smokey:

A great pitcher, we haven't got

Sohovik:

A great ball club, we haven't got

Rocky, Smokey, Sohovik:

What've we got?

We've got heart

All we really need is heart,

You gotta have heart

All you really need is heart

When the odds are sayin'

You'll never win

That's when the grin should start

We've got hope

We don't sit around and mope.

None is solitary sob do we heave,

Mister, cause we've got hope.

Rocky:

We're so happy that we're hummin'

Quartet:

(hm-hm-hm)

Van Buren:

That's the hearty thing to do

Quartet:

(Hoo-hoo-hoo)

Smokeyk:

'Cause we know our ship will come in.

Quartet:

(Hm-hm-hm)

So it's ten years overdue.

Rocky, Smokey, Sohovik:

(Hoo-hoo-hoo)

We've got heart

Miles 'n' miles 'n' miles of heart.

Oh, it's fine to be a genius of course,

But keep that old horse before the cart.

Smokey:

So what's the heck's the use of cryin';

Rocky:

Why should we curse?

Sohovik:

We gotta get better

Van Buren:

'Cause we can't get worse!

Quartet:

And to add to it,

We've got heart,

We've got heart,

We've got heart!

Van Buren:

What've we got?

Rocky, Smokey, Sohovik:

Heart

Van Buren:

What've we got?

All:

Heart

Van Buren:

What've we got?

All:

We've got heart

Miles 'n' miles 'n' miles of heart.

Oh, it's fine to be a genius of course,

But keep that old horse before the cart.

First you've gotta have heart.

Locker Men:

What've we got?

Shower Men:

What've we got?

Locker Men:

What've we got?

Shower Men:

What've we got?

All:

We've got heart

Miles 'n' miles 'n' miles of heart.

All we really need is heart

We've got hope

Mustn't sit around and mope.

Bubba:

Look

All:

What

Bubba:

Soap-on-a-rope!

All:

Da, da, da, da, da, etc.

Ozzie and Bomber:

All we really need is hope

All:

(Gargle Chorus)

What've we got?

What've we got?

We've got heart

Miles 'n' miles 'n' miles of heart

Oh, it's fine to be a genius of course,

But keep that old horse before the cart

Van Buren:

Who minds those pop bottles flyin'

Rocky:

The hisses and boos

Mickey, Bubba, Ozzie, Smokey:

The team has been consistent

Bomber, Sohovik:

Yeah we always lose

All:

But we're laughin' cause

We've got heart!

We've got heart!

We've got heart!

What've we got? We've got heart.

All:

Gloria!

[david_dawei]

Earlier today, I traced down a fillable version of the I-134.. shows you what my decision already is !  

 

A pound of regs won't out weight a single form!  

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David,

 

Visapro has all of the USCIS and DOS forms in fillable format if there are others that you want.

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YEP !! That's where I found it and added that link to one of the FAQs I'm working on. thanks gene...

 

here it is in case someone wants it:

 

http://www.visapro.com/INS-Forms-Download.asp

 

Edited this to state that Don's P4 form list also contains the fillable I-134 (duh!)... http://home.comcast.net/~donahso/index.htm