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sorry for the long delay. was just so busy that i didn't have time to do anything. we didn't go to gz yet and we are planning to send me abroad in november to re-establish my life there before bring the babes in for a visit.

hey guys sorry for long time no see. no puns there ok. I was busy for most of the past time and nothing was going as planned. haha surprise surprise. we never went to gz and now its like 10000 degrees in fuzhou so we dont want to go anywhere. ill be going home to visit my family in November. ive lived in China for 13 years now. Don't you think I need some time to re-establish my life back in the states first? - david

Personally I hope they fry each and every single one of these crooks. One guy recently in Hebei got caught with 38 pounds of Gold and about 100 million in cash. Also in his possession were 60 housing ownership documents. These are happy stories. For once I'd like to see more countries return these thieves back to where they belong. A jail in Beijing where they can work in some factory that has 'less' than ideal air conditions. -

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Hi I was really sick. man that was bad. ok so i read everything and it was clarifying to say the least. I didn't think it was necessary to take them to GZ so soon. I wouldn't want to have them needing visa's like their father does every year. That process sends me to the bathroom every year..... anyway, as it stands my wife is going to be doing all the hukou stuff very soon and from there we will spend some time over at the PSB office to get as much info about the Chinese side of things. There was a GZ consular who visited here in Fuzhou awhile ago but I missed my chance. I had to work. I think for now we'll get the hukous, talk to the PSB and i will continue reading and talking more about this process. chinese law is hardly ever applied as written. If it is, please someone show me because this place is more like a zoo on most days. legally speaking haha thanks again

thanks all. I happened to catch a 3 day flu right after I wrote this. just had a chance to get on my feet again and take a look here today. I have to run out at the moment to check something but i will be back very soon and ill be looking over this thread and replying to you guys soon. If i can help anyone, please ask. I'll be happy to do whatever i can - David

Hi all Happy Thanksgiving! Being in China again during the holiday left me without yet another turkey dinner. I am going to throw this out and see what comes back to me. I've been in China for 12 years. A long time yea I know. I am married with two lovely twin girls(6 months). I of course want them to go to school and live in the USA. For obvious reasons. right? Here is the deal: I want them to understand China before I take them home. That means we will remain inside China for at least 5 more years but I am thinking more like 10. So theyll have some school here but no freaking gaokao for my angels. I want to know so many things so i'll just have to be anal about it and list them. If anyone can help, way cool. thanks in advance! 1. If my girls get their American passports but live in China how does it work with visas for them? 2. Do they need a visa? 3. This one is complicated: We did not go to GZ yet because there were issues after the birth but all is well. We didn't want to take the girls on a train at such a young age. So i am sure that I will have to pay some stupid fine. As if I broke a law having children. 4. Once my girls get their passports & visa etc blah blah, what do I need to do about getting my wife a tourist visa to go visit my hometown(Chicago)? 5. Is it easy for my kids to go to the USA? 6. What will happen to their hukou? 7. I forsee a major clusterfudge of paperwork, interviews and so on. What could I fully expect to see in terms of getting my girls their passports, visiting chicago and keeping them living in China for the next 10 years. 8. Any external links you may suggest to me? I would like to say that this site is really good and would like to thank all of you here. You make the world a bit easier for us red-tapers. - David