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  1. interesting discussion, but depending on the business interest you take to China from the west, my experience has been----there is little reason NOT to go to China if your interest is developing a new product, and you are a small entity.

     

    When you compare sourcing in the US to China, its almost like night & day---and has been for many years. Source in the the US for a new product, and the company you approach is willing to take almost NO risk----for instance, R&D---up front costs, prototyping ---again, up front costs---basically, the US want profits without risk.

     

    Got to China----exactly the opposite always yes for an answer, and willing to both R&D and prototyping---no charge---in exchange for a manufacturing contract. And keep in mind, the Chinese company has really no clue if you can sell the product they make, and in many cases, don't even need a financial guarantee. The entrepreneurs of China, in my experience are much more willing to hang out on a ledge than their US counterpart. In my experience, the problem is they may, or may not, be able to deliver on their promises, which makes the whole sourcing process so essential, and at the same time, so difficult.

    This I agree with. The environment to start new business and products is much easier in China that US for many reasons (cash available, risk aversion, thinking short-term only, lack of tort reform, etc.). I am always amazed at how easily my Chinese friends and family will jump from one business opportunity to another when things are not working out even if they know nothing about the new business they go into. Somehow they make a little money until something else comes along and a few of them had make a lot of money and are growing their business. In that respect that definitely take more risk than Americans.

     

    So of it seems to be from a "it cant be any worse attitude" and from knowing their family will be there to pick them up if they fall until they are back on their feet. Just my observations and feelings.

     

    However when they are in a stable job/organization then they will rarely push back and usually are "yes" men to the boss but then go away and do it their own way.

     

    When you take about delivering on promises I see that too. You get a lot of promises but trying to keep the focus on the promise is difficult. A lot of times they meet the deadline but because they delayed and lost focus the quality is sub-par.

     

    I remember one of our marketing and sales expats telling me that the sales team would go out of sales trip and come back excited because they had increased sales. When asked how much more product they had sold the salesman would reply oh no more product but they would like a swimming pool so I told them we could do it for them. It was tongue-in-cheek but I got his point and I have seen similar examples. They are easy to become interested in a new business but also easy to lose interest.

     

    On the whole both cultures could learn from each other. For me I was sent here to start-up and optimize plants and teach the engineers international standards and efficient/safe plant operation. However I quickly realized there was a lot for me to learn and take back to the USA from here. I am sure back in the USA I will be saying things like "You got to be kidding me!! If I was back in China we could do that 10 times faster and 5 times cheaper without any bitching about needing to work overtime or on Sunday" :eekout:

  2. Thank you for the feedback.

     

    Ok your right, I will change after marriage, but im not quite sure how much, but I can atleast try to prevent myself from changing into a negative person.

     

    You know I said the same thing about the her friends being jealous. She told me "oh come on, americans are not number 1" lol. She might not think that, but i bet her friends wished they scored an american guy. She wont elaborate on this with the odds in my favor hehe.

     

    Now she says "she wants to live a quiet life" Which coming from China, what is she to expect from America? I explained to her that the first couple years are going to be rough for us until I finish up my bachelors and I sure do have a mortgage that needs to be paid every month and a loan for a car that is quite a ways from getting paid off.

     

    I think she understands shes not going to be living in a Mansion with maids when she comes to America.

     

    Thanks again, out.

     

     

    What do you think she means by living "a quiet life" ?

     

    What I got out of it was probably she doesnt care about a big house, nice car, lots of nice things in the house. She just wants to live in a normal house, and have the necessities for living.

     

    I think the term is more like a "simple life."

     

    Well ya know, im just saying exactly what she told me :blink:

    Exactly -- "quiet life" is chinglish for "simple life" ... :lol:

  3. An interesting and thorough read on how the CCP ties to keep the lid on... :blink:

     

    http://www.underminingdemocracy.org/china/

    The CCP sometimes fabricates or exaggerates national-level fears precisely for the purpose of distracting attention. Most Chinese people, left to themselves, care much more about their own daily lives than about distant places like Taiwan or Tibet. They wake up in the morning worried more about a corrupt local official than about the Dalai Lama. But when CCP propaganda tells them repeatedly that the wolf-hearted Dalai Lama is splitting the motherland, they tend to embrace the view that it is bad to split the motherland and that the CCP is the standard-bearer in opposing this splitting. The stimulation of a fear that did not previously exist has less to do with actual danger than with the CCP’s need to strengthen its popular image and divert attention from popular complaints. In recent years the CCP has used incidents involving Japan, Tibet, Taiwan, and the United States for this purpose. In the case of Tibet there is evidence that the triggering incidents themselves have been manufactured for the cause.

     

    I can look at our govt. and see both parties doing the same thing - diverting attention from the real problems and trying to gain votes by painting the other party or other countries as being the bad guy.

     

    It would be nice to see the evidence of the incidents being manufactured regarding the case of Tibet or any of the other claims they make in this article.

     

    Looks interesting to me more from the standpoint that a bunch of "self proclaimed experts" seem hell bent to start and flame a Cold War with China.

     

     

    {edited to remove the bullshit political cheap shot}

  4. UPDATE:

     

    I was able to get Jingjing in the door without putting her in my carry-on.

     

    Here's how it went down.

     

    At EWR, I accompanied her through the visitor's line. An officer saw us together, walked over to a vacant booth and waved us to his location (basically, we got to leap frog over several people). He was a really friendly guy who mentioned that our brown folder had a lot of stuff in it. He commended Jingjing on making me carry it for her. He had Jingjing give her finger prints through a digital scanner - and, took her picture.

     

    After that he accompanied Jingjing and I to another room (down the elevator - yes, I got to go with her) where we sat for 3 minutes. After a brief sat, another officer called Jingjing over and made her giver her finger prints again and that was it. No further questions just a nice "Welcome to the United States" and we were off.

     

    It took about five minutes to complete the initial arrival immigrant processing and get Jingjing's entry visa endorsed. Simple simple simple.

    Great News!! Glad you guys made it safely!!!!

  5. I've seen some interesting studies comparing Chinese and Americans in the realm of risk taking.

     

    First, it was observed that Chinese people tend to be more risk seeking, on average, than Americans. Exploring this, a few researchers took large samples of proverbs from both languages and had people from both countries rate them in terms of whether they seemed to advocate risk seeking or risk avoidance. It turns out that Chinese proverbs tend to encourage risk-taking (e.g., "shibai shi chenggong zhi mu", "failure is the mother of success") more so than English ones, which more often seem to encourage taking the safe option (e.g., "a bird in hand is worth two in the bush").

     

    I believe the researchers also speculated that Chinese financial risk taking is bolstered by their greater reliance on social networks for financial support.

    Maybe this is in their personal life. Having worked with the factory operators and engineers for over 3 years I would not say the Chinese are risk takers. If they can't CYA or push it up to the next level for a decision than nothing gets done.

     

    Trying to encourage team building and working across departments and at the same co-worker level can sometimes be really frustrating. If you don't have the correct "power" title you can find it a long battle to lead by example. Much different than in the States.

  6. We got P4 appointment letter that my son's interview date is 3-29-2010. I'm not familiar with some of the documents required.

    1. "Correspondence Instructions" - C

    Should we ask GUZ to send my son "Correspondence Instructions" or they will be part of "GUZ P3 Supplement" which I guess will be sent to my son later but before 3/29.

    I wondered about this one also but I did nothing with it. I assumed it meant if I had questions to call GUZ.

    2. "Immigration Visa Application" - S

    Is this I-130 or something else? The original one should be with NVC now. What we have is just a copy. We don't have the original one.

    This is the DS-230 form you completed, scanned and sent to NVC. They need the original signed application. It is the IV Application

    3."Financial Evidence" - S

    Our W-2? If yes, we need to mail it to my son.

    This is the AOS (I-864) package you completed, scanned and sent to NVC. They need the original signed package.4. "GUZ P3 Supplement" - A

    I hope it will reach my son before 3/20. Otherwise we may need to re-schedule date of interview?

    You can email the form (or have your parents download and print out from GUZ) to your parents and let them fill it out. Reschedule the interview for this is borderline insane.

     

    Other questions about the interview:

    5. My parents will take him to GUZ. Can my parents enter GUZ or only the applicant (minor) is admitted in the building?

    They can enter the building. Since he is a minor I would also assume they can go into the interview waiting area with him but email or call GUZ and ask them.

    6. If passed, my son gets all necessary doc at once or they'll be mailed to my son later?

    He will be treated like all the others. He will have to pay the visa processing fee and request it to be mailed to your parents home (if it can be done) or have to come back in a few days to pick up the passport/visa.

    7. This interview came a little earlier than we thought. I'll be free in 5/10 -5/31. If I reschedule, is that possible that we can pick a day or let GUZ pick a day within that range? Is that negotiable?

    Best of luck with that but you can email or call and ask. Since he is a minor maybe they will give you extra consideration.

    Any advice is much appreciated!

  7. Hopefully, one day soon the good folks at USCIS will end our 18 month (pick one) blessing/ordeal/journey/learning experience/private hell and determine that we have now jumped through enough hoops to merit a two year green card. At that time, she will still be a Chinese citizen.

     

    Assuming my wife can eventually receive her green card, how does this impact her ability to travel?

     

    Specifically,

    (1) Can she travel to Mexico and the Caribbean on a cruise with me without obtaining a Chinese visa to visit each of the countries that a cruise ship may dock at? -- YES

     

    (2) Can she enter Canada or Mexico with me with a Green Card or does she need to obtain a Chinese visa for Canada and a Chinese visa for Mexico to cross the border? -- ENTER w/ GC

     

    (3) Can she travel to the major countries in Europe (England, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Switzerland, Greece, Netherlands, etc) without obtaining a Chinese visa to each country. -- NO

     

    (4) Are the answers to (1) through (3) above different once she has her 10 year green card? -- NO

     

    (5) If she becomes a US Citizen then I presume the answers to (1) through (3) are that no special Visa is needed. I understand that if she becomes a US Citizen then she will need a US Visa to travel to China. Is my understanding correct? YES but she will need a Chinese visa to trave to China.

     

    Thanks for your help,

  8. thanks for replying.

    I just called NVC answer service and was able to learn GUZ# for I130 by inputing the USCIS WAC# but was told there is no record for my I129f case.

     

    Curious how do you people learn of NVC in and out info? I suppose this is only relevant to I129f/K visa

    If the I-130/I-129F were approved and arrived together at NVC then they may have closed the K3 visa case. You should call NVC during working hours and ask them directly and request for it to processed if you want to go this route.

     

    Now that you have the GUZ number for the I-130 you can OPTIN for electronic processing. From OPTIN until GUZ interview can be as short as 3 months if you stay on top of everything and have no delays on your end.

    NVC will not close a K-3 case.

     

    The automated phone system does not provide information for K-Visas, only IMMIGRANT visa cases like CR-1 and IR-1. You need to call and TALK to an operator to check status for K-Visas.

     

    So here is the deal you have a choice, since you know the GUZ number for the I-130 (CR-1) case you can proceed with electronic processing and more than likely get interviewed for CR-1 (IMMIGRANT) visa before or within days of a K-3. If you get the NVC processing of CR-1 done and on to consulate while the consulate is handling the paperwork for K-3, the consulate will drop the K-3 in favor of the CR-1. Electronic NVC processing here: http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=37703

     

    The only advantage that I have seen for K-3 is IF you have a shaky case that may result in a denial (Lots of red flags not addressed when filing petition) holding the I-130 in reserve may give you a second attempt at a visa (Plan - :lol:. I did see one member have a K-3 DENIED and then move the approved I-130 through to an approval of CR-1 visa with the help of a lawyer.

    See link to previous topic regarding possible closure of K3.

     

    http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...st&p=541967

     

    How will the Department of State process my K-3 visa petition?

     

    Important Notice: Effective February 1st, 2010, when both the I-129F petition for a nonimmigrant K visa and the I-130 petition for an IR-1 (or CR-1) spouse of a U.S. citizen visa have been approved by USCIS and sent to the National Visa Center (NVC), the availability as well as the need for a nonimmigrant K-3 visa ends. If the NVC receives both petitions:

     

    The nonimmigrant K visa will be administratively closed.

    The application process explained below will not be applicable and cannot be used.

    The NVC will contact the petitioner and you with instructions for processing your IR-1 (or CR-1) immigrant visa. For more information on the immigrant visa process review the Immigrant Visa for a Spouse webpage

  9. thanks for replying.

    I just called NVC answer service and was able to learn GUZ# for I130 by inputing the USCIS WAC# but was told there is no record for my I129f case.

     

    Curious how do you people learn of NVC in and out info? I suppose this is only relevant to I129f/K visa

    If the I-130/I-129F were approved and arrived together at NVC then they may have closed the K3 visa case. You should call NVC during working hours and ask them directly and request for it to processed if you want to go this route.

     

    Now that you have the GUZ number for the I-130 you can OPTIN for electronic processing. From OPTIN until GUZ interview can be as short as 3 months if you stay on top of everything and have no delays on your end.

  10. Don't forget the most important part:

     

    Open the packet of chicken feet and trim off any claws still attached.

     

    Just another example of how badly the translation from english to chinese for the word salad has been made in China. I cannot count the number of times I ordered and looked forward to a good salad from an expensive western food resturant and ended up with some slices of uneatable veg. covered in sesame seed oil. Oh, and don't get me started on Ceasar Dressings I've had.

     

    I guess shortly it will be payback time for my wife as I get to watch her eat Chinese food in the USA and give me the same "WTF is this" look I sometimes give her over here ... :huh:

  11. Just a year ago there was widespread layoffs in China's Pearl River Valley. Now today the are having a labor shortage. The stimulus plan has worked in China. Here in the US we are still financing how honey bees mate and what favorite Son will get the most money.

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8527621.stm

    comments from the article:

     

    Expectations of higher wages and better working conditions from new workers are being blamed for the labour shortage.

     

     

    Some experts point out though that if companies are faced with a shortage of workers, that could force them to invest in new technology.

     

    In that way the shortages may actually help to speed up the transformation of the economy here into one that is less labour intensive, delivering higher value.

  12. Stone: I get asked the same questions by some of our investors as well. How can they afford to pay for these apartments given the income level? How do they qualify for the bank loan?

    Here is how they do it:

    After they decide to buy and agreed on a price, etc. a young couple would first come up with the down payment. The guy asks his mom and dad, the girl ask her mom and dad (other than in Shanghai, typically) to pool together the down payment, at least the bulk of it and they themselves put some money in too. Then they go to the personnel department and ask for a income verification letter to be chopped. They take this letter, the draft of which is typically prepared by the agent or at least a draft reviewed by the agent, to the bank and get a loan. How the hell they pay the monthly mortgage is another matter. It is typically a struggle.

    We don't have development projects in Beijing. So I don't have a breakdown of investment purchase versus self use. Nor did I have numbers on the average income. There were rumors at one point in time that we were going to trata title sell one of our properties, between 2nd and 3rd ring at 38,000 /sm with GFA ranging from 180 to 300 sm. I got a call from my cousin asking to reserve one for her and calls from the lending bank to reserve one for them. I know my cousin's income, but not how much these state owned bank employees make. I guess their salary would be around 200K per year with a year end bonus (cash and gift cards, etc of a little over a million RMB). In Beijing there are more than a few douzen (thousands?) government employees/public servants and they would treat it as a real insult if you ask them if they make more than 200k RMB a year. The factory workers and the office front desk ladies don't buy.

     

    You should know better than that. No government employee legally earns 200k per year. Cabinet level officials (i.e. ministers) have a net salary of about 6 - 7k.

     

    When you say state-owned bank it can be confusing because in one way or another the government owns every bank in China with the exception of those like HSBC, perhaps. If you mean employees of the traditional Big Four, there is no way anybody except for, perhaps, the very senior management to legally earn 200k per year. It would be a miracle if a branch manager or even an area branch manager took home 7k per month.

     

    The typical bonus for any of these people is a 13th month salary.

     

    I can echo Bill's point as the government workers in China are low-paid when compared with those who work in the private sector. They often receive a few other benefits though like housing and a lifetime pension.

     

    You forgot to mention graft. :unsure:

     

    They do have a great pension program. Although free housing was supposed to be eliminated, they do get a thousand or two as a housing allowance (included in salary figures, above). The real benefit comes when they are sold properties at far below market value. A rather large group of individuals at one particular state-owned bank has been offered 70 m2 units inside the 3rd Ring at 2,500 RMB per m2. This is not uncommon.

    Bill, what is exactly the legally earned amount? Every year the government officcials, from fire to sanitation to neighborhood committee groups, to ¡£¡£¡£come over for a gift, typically a transit card or something. The amount is not big, say a few hundered RMB or for guys in charge a few thousands. How many businesses operate in that particular district? We had an operation and did not provide the gift cards in one particular district (police). We got a letter to shut down.

    I have a friend who invested 300,000 Rmb for a postion in government (he was switched from a chu zhang in light industrial to safty inspection) and recovered his investment within four month. I got into a fight with him when he threatened to shut down the junior high that I went to for safty reasons (failer to pay). Why do you think Chinese mines have some many accidents? He told me that if he try to enforce the safty regulations, he would lose his job. The mine owner pay directly to Beijing! Give me an example of any government employee that do not receive gift cards or some other benefits. Look at the number of people who apply for the exam to become public servants and one would understand why.

    Foreign funds like us are hard to compete. How much do bank employees really earn? Not that much, if you check the published stats. A typical loan, in harder time, require a payment of brokerage fee ranging from 0.8 to as high as 3% points. The broker, of course is not a bank employee but has good relationship with the one approving or disapproving the loan. The commission is shared with the bank employee£¬ who in turn, to avoid being thrown into jail, shares with the remainder of the bank employees, his boss and others in the office. It is an open secret. The only reason the head of the insurance guy who just been sentenced to 17 years got caught is because he did not learn a good lesson in sharing. Even with that, he was charged with mis-use of funds and taking a bribe of 2 mm RMB. The 9 mm RMB commission he received was not treated as a bribe. All these were in the Government newspaper. If you do DD in M&A on targets, you will understand how much off balance sheet payments are made by local companies.

    I understood Bill's point to be what you just made for him. Their offical salary is ~5-7K/month. The rest is from corruption.

  13.  

    This topic has nothing to do with your kid or wife. You left out the original post that I had replied to. The OP was asking Pros/Cons of wife becoming USC. I was replying to who you know in China (either government or economic position) and yes, based on your experiences you don¡¯t know.

    Based on my wife¡¯s experiences and who she knows, she can still purchase property and have the some of the same benefits of a Chinese citizen¡­since she has become a USC.

     

     

    Oh, I see - sorry, I thought that by "Money talks" you meant bribes.

     

    But even the "who you know" part of it I would take issue with - it seems to be a matter of WHAT THEY know, rather than who your friends are.

     

    We've been treated fairly, and have gotten a lot done, even when faced with a front line of people who DIDN'T know. The PSB and Customs officials have been VERY helpful. The COLLECTIVE knowledge of these people is what we needed and got.

     

    Yes, a foreigner can buy property. I was told a) told no I couldn't get a loan (if fact, neither could she, since she had an American green card), and B ) that I needed a residence permit (which I now have). This can vary in different areas.

     

    But, yes, what I'm saying for any foreigner is to talk to the local PSB to find out what you will need to do and what you will be allowed to do.

    My wife will stay a PRC citizen. This is her decision. Maybe after getting to America she will change her mind. Her thoughts now are that it is better if have citizen rights to each country as a married couple. I also think she does not want to give up her heritage and that she thinks in the future China will be more and more of a global player. I tend to agree with her on that.

     

    When I do retire and if we came back to China we would probably do it as USC/PRC citizen. If it looks like a revolution in China (or USA) we would probably get the hell out of dodge and retire in New Zealand.

     

    I agree, from my experience, 100% with Randy's comment. Once you find the people/office that you need you can get almost all matters resolved to your satisfaction in a fair way.

  14. Depending on what you feel is important (freedoms), it is nice to have the protection of the US Gov behind you when abroad. Most likely if any problems arise, you'll be deported rather than imprisoned. Less chance of getting separated.

     

     

    This is a major issue that often gets glossed over by those planning on living in China the "easy way", having your wife remain a PRCC. What if the totally unexpected happens??? :P We plan on starting to live in China in 3 1/2 years when I retire. Before that my wife will become a USC. We already own multiple homes in China that we can rent or sell as needs arise but let me tell you that rents in most of China are so low that it is not profitable to rent. Most are doing it waiting for the appreciation on their house to kick in. Having to travel out of China to renew our visas is not a problem since we plan on traveling in southeast asia anyway and may apply for retirement visas in Thailand or Malaysia... :D

     

    You mean like if the USA, as part of our new shift in anger China policy, implements a full ban (in contrast to the burdensome laws/BS that exists now creating a type of partial ban) on allowing PRC citizens to live in the USA with their spouse ... :lol: :unsure:

  15. Just some thoughts, is it forthcoming, maybe in the next 20 years a (Semi-Democratic Society). China looked at what happened when the Berlin Wall came down in 1989, and saw all the problems the former East Bloc countries faced, which there still are to this day, which they are still trying to over-come, and said no way hell are we going to let that happen here.

     

    Even though China still has tight control over everything within, one can feel that there is a shift/movement, to move at a slow and progressive pace to a newer China, IMHO.

     

    First bold - Maybe true to some extent but in 1989 China was already opening up/moving to economic reform and had distanced itself from Russia in many ways.

     

    Second bold - I would agree with this. They will continue to move toward a "Chinese version" of a govt. that suits them and it caused by people's desires, protests, and movements. It will probably have more freedom and openess then today and some similarities to a western democractic govt.

  16. There are a few people that think like Roger, meaning that the Chinese people are pissed because they aren't like the West, and ready to revolt. Too much windowpane in the 1960s I suspect.

     

    :rolleyes:

     

    I can only assume that Jesse did not bother to read the article or check out the credentials of the quoted expert... :( Been out in the sun too long I suspect... :horsehit:

    Read the article. Saw this:

     

    The latest edition of the newspaper Southern Weekend broke a two-decade taboo by publishing a photo of a youthful Mr Hu with his early mentor, former party chief Hu Yaobang, who was purged in 1987 for his liberal and reformist leanings. But Chinese internet search results for the names of both leaders were yesterday blocked for ''non-compliance with relevant laws''.

     

    Then searched for both of these leaders on the internet and founds tons of available information about each one and about their relationship/background. Did all this from my apartment in China using a China ISP.

  17. Look at David's advice. You need to have a joint sponser or find some work, even if just temporary, that allows you to get your wife the GC. Otherwise you will be screwed as you said.

     

    She can go ahead and work now as soon as get gets a SSN.

    Bad advise, SSN is NOT work authorization, this is given by USCIS via EAD or Green-card. A K-1 is technically "work authorized" for the 90 days after entry to the USA, primarily to get the SSN, some states require SSN before issuing a Marriage License.

     

    You may want to tale a close look at form I-9 it specifies that the work auth document be a photo document (EAD or Green-Card) when presented with a restricted-SSN card. The SSN card will be marked "Valid with DHS authorization only" which indicates to employers to require EAD or Green-card.

     

    I-9

     

    List A Documents that establish Both Identity and Employment Authorization

     

    Item 4 Employment Authorization Document that contains a photograph.

     

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    List C Documents that Establish Employment Authorization

     

    Item 1 Social Security Account Number card other than one that specifies on the face that issuance of the card does not authorize employment in the United States.

    http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-9.pdf

     

    A K-1 is NOT a work visa, it is a fiancee visa for entry to the USA and marriage. Every visa type has it's pros and cons, in this case a K-3 would have been better because a K-3 can get a two year EAD before filing AOS, take a job and add income to self sponsor, the K-3 can then provide an I-864A.

    Thanks for the catch. I never realized that one could get a SSN that does not allow you to work....

     

    But I thought that a K1 visa got a I-94 endorsed with an employment authorization stamp. I always thought this was one of the advantages over the K3 visa in that you could get work authorization and SSN right away.

     

    Just more proof of the confusion we call an immigration system.

  18. you really, really, really, need a joint sponsor IMO.. or you risk losing the greencard. Your overall situation doesn't seem so good. You really need to evaluate what to do and then do what you can.

     

     

    Mmmm kind of sounds like I am screwed here then. This is why I wanted to wait till I go back to work, 'cuz when I file, it will look like I was never laid off. BUT she wants it as soon as she can so she can get out of the house and feel useful by even having a part time job.

     

    The problem is that I don't have anyone that would sponsor us. I don't have any friends that are close enough for something like that, my father passed away 4 years ago and my mother didn't like the idea of me getting married to an "non-american". I mean, she likes her, but still holds her doubts.

     

    But we have found a way to get the money to file for the AOS fee. She is selling her camera and all her equipment. Being a professional photographer she has some very nice lenses. It will be more then enough to cover the cost.

     

    I hate to be brutal here but based on this it seems you have problems on several fronts that are much bigger than paying the AOS fee.

     

    I know that there are a lot of problems, but sometimes it is better then being alone. Sometimes I feel that I am that battered woman you see on Cops, married to a drunk abusive husband that doesn't want to file any charges 'cuz she claims "i still love him'.

     

    She even told me that the money she is getting from selling the camera is enough to get a ticket back to china. But you know I still feel in my heart that we can work on this.

     

    I find it hard to believe that a man will wait in china for 10 years for a plan work out like that.

     

    There is a lot I look at what she did, said and how she acted when I was working. Yes, her whole attitude has changed since I was laid off but she won't admit it.

    Well I dont know all your story or why your AOS/EAD were rejected. However I can understand that your wife would feel very concerned about hers (and yours) future and it would show up in her dealings with you. Put yourself in her shoes.

     

    What are you referring to in a man in china waiting 10 years?

     

    BTW - I edited from original reply to you because I realized it was "harsh".

  19. you really, really, really, need a joint sponsor IMO.. or you risk losing the greencard. Your overall situation doesn't seem so good. You really need to evaluate what to do and then do what you can.

     

     

    Mmmm kind of sounds like I am screwed here then. This is why I wanted to wait till I go back to work, 'cuz when I file, it will look like I was never laid off. BUT she wants it as soon as she can so she can get out of the house and feel useful by even having a part time job.

     

    The problem is that I don't have anyone that would sponsor us. I don't have any friends that are close enough for something like that, my father passed away 4 years ago and my mother didn't like the idea of me getting married to an "non-american". I mean, she likes her, but still holds her doubts.

     

    But we have found a way to get the money to file for the AOS fee. She is selling her camera and all her equipment. Being a professional photographer she has some very nice lenses. It will be more then enough to cover the cost.

     

    Look at David's advice. You need to have a joint sponser or find some work, even if just temporary, that allows you to get your wife the GC. Otherwise you will be screwed as you said.

     

    She can go ahead and work now as soon as get gets a SSN.

  20. The real reason it failed is because they already toured the plant, met with the engineers, and got all of the production information that they wanted. Now that they've learned what they need to know about manufacturing and advanced engineering (milk), there's no point in buying the company (cow).

     

    Please see "CCC" for reference on wholesale industrial espionage.

     

    :guitar: :guitar:

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