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Yep, we also live in Oregon. The certificate/license is definately confusing, although certainly 99% of the instructions of USCIS is right... sometimes it doesn't work for certain people like us. I'm going to just send in the certified copy of the license and perhaps a photocopy of the certificate, despite it's decorate use.

I posted this question over at VJ with no luck. So I'll try here. I had a question about the marriage certificate. On the I-485 instructions, it says to send in a certified marriage certificate, but I could only get certified copies of the marriage LICENSE. When I went to my county marriage office, they said the certificate is only for decorate use; there is no official use for it. When I had tried to get another "certified copy" of marriage certificate, they took my original one and gave me a new one which had nothing written on it (therefore I still only have one and this time it's unsigned and blank, strange eh?) So I just took back my original certificate and left it at that. I wasn't sure to send in the original certificate + another certificated copy of my marriage license? Or just a certified copy of the marriage license? Thanks!

We had ours done in GZ. 8 Dec. and from time she left to go and have it done till the time she came back was about 3-4 hours. One of the ladys from MR "whatz his name" in the consulate building went with her. Then you go back and pick up the results the next day. That took about 2 hours as they are always busy. The waiting room was full of others getting results done or either picking up the results My wife told me they did make sure she was a real female... or real male it you have a female USC SO. Yes she did have to take her cloths off, and yes it was a lady that checked her body. Now if they made her "SPREAD EM" I'm not sure. She said they did write down the location and put in her file all marks on her body like birth marks, molds, scares, tattoos, and thats she was 100% female no aftermarket or replacement parts was added to her body. Bobby.... My wife told me too that she had to take off all of her clothes. But she had a male doctor do the exam. She DID NOT have to "SPREAD 'EM" however he did a quick breast exam. She said it was very quick. To say the least I wasn't very happy to hear about this. Also there was no one else in the room. My wife assured me that it was very quick and no harm was done. Things in China are not the same as in the USA. Hmm... interesting. I don't know for sure how it works, but I was referring to the possibility of a full lower-body inspection, such as a pelvic exam (or similar) for females or similar for males. But it seems this is rare, and other countries have docs that do it (It seems Canada & London medical exams require this more), not so sure about China. Anyway, probably the breast exam is most common type of inspection for females and vice versa, and the latter isn't, or maybe it is age dependent? Some friends of mine said they never had to do such for their exams. If it is required, then as chilton said, the difference between China & USA is kind of scary without the presence of the female if a male doctor does it. Oh well, hope all for the best and good luck.

Is that true that you don't need to make an appointment? When she gets her P4, GZ will enclose a list of approved hospitals for the exam, with the fee each hospital charges. I dont remember if they had the exam times or not on that paper, or if Jie had to call them, but in Shanghai People Hospital, we found out there were preset days/hours for the exam, no appt was necessary, she just shows up during those times. The actual exam took about an hour. I dont think there is a choice of male/female, but the exam doesnt get that personal anyway. It was mostly blood draw, blood pressure, lung xray, and a long questionairre. Oh, no nakedness? Like the usual "physical"... Ahem... "Spread em" ?

I have read that other people have gotten RFE's for not including ALL of the passport pages with a birth certificate. I just sent my I-129F package a few days ago and I am quite worried now. I only sent in my birth certificate without all of the passport pages because I thought you could send one or the other (either sending a copy of the birth certificate, or ALL pages of the passport). Hmm, if I were to get an RFE... how long do you think it would take? Like say from NOA1 and NOA2... I knew I might have forgot something... it always feels like I left something regardless of anything I do.

Ah, I see. I was wondering about whether this was a good way to do it too. I was planning to either attach pictures onto a piece of paper, or put the photos into a small bag, then staple the bag to a paper. Cause I figured everything must be able to be in a paper folder of some sort and stick together on a paper.

I was wondering about two things for evidence for both meeting on the requirement of I-129F. One is the location and information on the back of the photos. In my photos, I only put down the date, but some of the locations I do not remember the name, is this okay? The second is I have a copy of the engagement ring receipt I bought in China. However, it is Chinese, not English. Do you think this is okay? I have "engagement ring receipt" as one of the evidence stated in my Cover Sheet, so it explains what it is. Thanks!!

I recently sent out my packet to my fiancee with forms for her to fill out. She took one of the forms and went to an advice place in China where they specialize in filling out immigration forms. My fiancee currently goes to school and does not work. Under the "Employment" section of China, one of the specialists there wrote "Student" as occupation with her school name and its address being in the "Employer name/address" section. I was thinking maybe it should be "None" instead because she doesn't actually have a job. I don't know what the place she took it to was, but she told me they help immigrants with many forms and necessary documents. Should I just tell her to leave it as "None" or continue with the "school/student" ? Maybe Student as a job sounds or perhaps "presents" better than actually no job at all for the beneficiary? Or maybe it's like that way in China? Hmm....

I think what he means is just thought maybe it would get a little confusing and raise some questions because of the similar names and relation. But I guess you're right. 240537[/snapback] Yes, but I have my own W2s at where I work at and my co-sponsors (parents) have their own. Thanks once again.

Hi everyone. I currently work at a firm as a part and full-time Manager owned by my parents. However, because I sometimes work part and full-time depending on school, I will need a co-sponsor. My co-sponsor will be my parents. My question is about the employment letter and bank statements and where I work. Since I work at my parents' firm and they are also my co-sponsors, do you think it would cause confusion or suspicion? For example, the tax statements or employment letters would show their name (because they own the firm), while at the same time the co-sponsor's information will be theirs too. What should I do? Thanks.

I am 20. Her parents actually know my parents. My parents and her parents are classmates and best friends. We have actually been talking online, phone calling, postcard mailing, etc, for the past year and a half or so. This year I got a chance to go back to China and fully meet her in person and I have decided she will be the girl I want to spend the rest of my life with.

The OP hasn't answered whether he knows if his fiance can obtain a passport. I assume she can, with or without her parents' permission once she is 18. This assumption may not be correct. If she can get a passport, she can leave China once a visa to the USA is obtained. China will recognize her legal US marriage even though she could not have been married in China at that time. The rub is whether the US govt. will consider her legal to sign the G325a before she is 18. There is no issue with the marriage, if she can get here. 236509[/snapback] I believe she can get a passport once she's 18.

So wouldn't simply waiting until she's 18 solve the problem? You won't need to risk the mail being fast. Why take a chance? You are risking much more than a month here. 236498[/snapback] Hmm, I guess I'll do that just to be on the safe side. Thanks for the prompt answers, your help is truly appreciated.

Not sure what you mean by "they", as in "when they receive it". Date the forms the day you mail them to the service center. Does she have a passport? If not, is she able to obtain one? Would she need parental concent to obtain a passport? 236485[/snapback] I meant the USCIS Service Center. I am writing up the forms and papers now and plan to send it in a few weeks, but I plan to fill out the forms otnight want to sign the date (like the date on the I-129F, G-325A, etc) for today. When the USCIS receives my package in a few weeks/month, my fiancee will already be 18. Would this be a problem as in will they look at the age of when the papers were signed and realize that my fiancee is not of legal age yet? Sorry for the confusion. 236488[/snapback] I'm still confused. Why would USCIS receive them in a few weeks? Are you in China? If so, I would be safe and date them so that they appear current when received by the service center. This will avoid any potential difficulty with her being underage on the day you signed them. However, I don't actually see this as a problem. If you are concerned about the mailing date being before the signature date, send them to a US resident for remailing. If you date them for when she is still 17, you'll have to show her age on the forms as 17. 236494[/snapback] I live in the US, but I had the original understanding that the USCIS won't receive them until a few weeks or even months down the road before they even reply. I am just worried that if I date them now, and send them (say... tomorrow), they'll look at her date of birth and realize that she is still underage when she signed the papers.

Not sure what you mean by "they", as in "when they receive it". Date the forms the day you mail them to the service center. Does she have a passport? If not, is she able to obtain one? Would she need parental concent to obtain a passport? 236485[/snapback] I meant the USCIS Service Center. I am writing up the forms and papers now and plan to send it in a few weeks, but I plan to fill out the forms otnight want to sign the date (like the date on the I-129F, G-325A, etc) for today. When the USCIS receives my package in a few weeks/month, my fiancee will already be 18. Would this be a problem as in will they look at the age of when the papers were signed and realize that my fiancee is not of legal age yet? Sorry for the confusion.