Ok, you say you 'just assume but', and then continue to make patently false statements. We have already agreed that is does vary by state, and donahso has been posting very good information for those who are in Oregon. If this is enough of an interest perhaps we should make a thread and collect information on the various states? In your first message I replied to you stated that 'A first name change needs a court's action in all states', this is wrong. Now in the follow up to this you make some more statements, that you say are assumptions but bullet them as true facts for the casual reader. For your point 1, I said in many states the time to change a name for a marrigae based name change is on these documents. Texas is a state the reconizes common law marriages still, so of course they will have a way to change a name based on marriage without these documents as well. So again we are talking state laws, and the fact you can do this in texas does not make statement 1 as written true in all states. For point 2, this is completely wrong, marriage based name changes are generally only for the last name. Marriage based name changes are covered by different law then common law name changes. For a common law name change it is actually easier to deal with the agencies if you are doing just a first name change, but you are legally allowed to change all of your name using this method. For point 3, we agree on this point completely. As for your important notice, I disagree again, as someone who has done a common law name change. Once you get one important ID issued (State or county ID card, or best the passport (Since the feds are well aware that some states allow common law name changes, but not an option for non-citizens), the rest follow quickly. Now, another point about the comment edited into my text about the rule of thumb that a driver license should show the same number. In fact you are best off if they do not. In Indiana I asked them to make them different and after much arguing that is was 'stupid, as it makes it easier to forget the number' etc they did so. They do not like to do it, since it is extra work for them, but you should always request them to make these numbers different. If you are every the victim of identity theft this will help you alot, and in fact makes the chances of being a victim less. Most forms, that have a place to put an SSN do not really require it, and federal law control the purposes for which it may be required. Often the best response to a form with a place for an SSN is to write a line through it (I learned this the hard way, as at one company I left this blank and the HR person filled it in for me, they then learned it the hard way as I forced them to change health insurance carriers to one that did not have my SSN). As some examples my SSN is not on my deed, not on my health insurance and not on my drivers license. At one point the a gas company had tried to claim they needed it to provide servers, and my stating that 'ok, give that to me in writing and I will leave', but not leaving the chair till they did, quickly produced a call to a supervisor who then said to give me service. It is important to learn that the instruction on forms are often what they want you to to do make it easier for them, and often times ask for more then they need, and do not mention alternative paths. To give two examples, you can get a passport in this country still with no birthcerticate needed, and you can still to this day board a plane with no photo id. Now, last week a situtation occured to remind me why protecting myself from some snoopers and id theives may become more important when I start to live with my wife. I stopped at a local pub for a sandwhich and beer, and was talking with a friend, when an neighbor who had already drank a few started talking about how great it was that our neighborhood was 'pure'. It too me awhile to catch on that he meant only whites lived here, or maybe it was no blacks. It did get me thinking about something that I had not before though, and that is maybe some may not like my marriage even in this day and age, and I am very happy I have made it a little harder for people to get my ssn. BTW, another thread I guess, but have any couples had problems in this area? Oh, another note about places that probably do not need the SSN. Many of the court ordered name changes ask for the SSN. You should try to avoid giving it. For a new immigrant the path of least resistance is probably to do this before you have an SSN, so you can just say you do not have one. As court records are public records you should not place you SSN in the public record if you can avoid it.