Eric739

Exactly Qing ke, not Qing by itself. Qing in a lot of cases is shortened like a contraction, so the ke or le is not said. I think you're referring to Çë not Çé ... e.g., ÇëÈ˳Է¹ or ÎÒÇë¿Í Pommey means the Çé from ¸ÐÇé and Çé¿ö I see. My eyes missed the first few strokes. I do think Qing though is one of the charming and unique things about China. When I was there, each time, I could not pay for a meal unless it was just with my family and was not often. And they did play the game of refusing three times before accepting any kind of gift or compliment or acceptance of favor. very ÈÈÇé (while on the subject of Çé ) "¶Ô¿ÍÈËÈÈÇéµ½¼ÒÁË" I have not been able to get Chinese characters yet on my keyboard either for me or my wife. Most of the software is so slow and tedious. But xie xie ni.

Exactly Qing ke, not Qing by itself. Qing in a lot of cases is shortened like a contraction, so the ke or le is not said. I think you're referring to Çë not Çé ... e.g., ÇëÈ˳Է¹ or ÎÒÇë¿Í Pommey means the Çé from ¸ÐÇé and Çé¿ö I see. My eyes missed the first few strokes. I do think Qing though is one of the charming and unique things about China. When I was there, each time, I could not pay for a meal unless it was just with my family and was not often. And they did play the game of refusing three times before accepting any kind of gift or compliment or acceptance of favor.

Exactly Qing ke, not Qing by itself. Qing in a lot of cases is shortened like a contraction, so the ke or le is not said.

close, but not quite right, the action of Qing between friends ? Then it would have to have a helping or particle word, like ke. That would take the meaning into the context of friends. In this case, you are paying for the meal.

We had a similar problem but it took a long time to get the pink. Stay on them but not too much. Do the homework quickly and keep copies of what you send, including receipts from the mail delivery system. That saved us. Be patient, keep in touch with each other (I know you will) and have faith. It's worth it. We are so happy now, despite a few problems that are obvious to any person coming to the US. You'll do it.

Qing Çé sentiment, feeling, emotion

Nothing could compare to the worse mass murderer in history: Mao. The counts vary but they are in the millions (30 is the least number I read) and not of soldiers in war either. Never mind the other millions he starved. The facts are that the US is now the most violent country on the planet. Countries bombed by US SINCE WWII: China, Korea, Guatemala, Indonesia, Cuba, Congo, Peru, Laos, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Grenada, Lebanon, Libya, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Iran, Panama, Iraq, Kuwait, Somalia, Bosnia, Sudan, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Pakistan, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Syria, and Philadelphia (MOVE, 1985). Apples and oranges. You are counting soldiers at war. Mao didn't really care about his own people much less his armies. And the countries you list could not compare to the millions lost in Great Leap and the Cultural Revolution. When told about the millions who were starving in the Great (Famine) Leap Forward, he said, "We will lose a few." Oh well....

Nothing could compare to the worse mass murderer in history: Mao. The counts vary but they are in the millions (30 is the least number I read) and not of soldiers in war either. Never mind the other millions he starved.

I didn't think this thread would get this far but some comments. As to China's crime rate especially violent crimes, it is far lower per capita than most industrialized countries including the US. I Googled it a while ago and some rates are different since some countries don't publish comparable figures by date: Russia: o.201534 South Africa: 0.0562789 America: 0.042802 India: 0.0344083 France: 0.0173272 Canada: 0.0149063 Britain: 0.0140633 Denmark: 0.0106775 Japan: 0.00499933 Murder Rates by Country Why? Some think China will execute you fast, often with little real justice, and send a bill for the bullet to your family. (True.) Others will say that much of China's murders go unreported. (Probably also true.) Recent crime studies do indicate validity in the deterrent aspect of murder but not in the case of the crazy ones such as Ft Hood. Tiannenman Square did lead to some changes for China at least. They got even more disciplined. One of the reasons T-Square dragged on so long was troops were brought in from Shenyang (and other areas) early on who obviously spoke Mandarin, the same language as the protestors. So the soldiers were more sympathetic to the protest since they understood them. Deng recognized that and as military chief ordered troops from the South who spoke Cantonese as their main language. That took a while but when they arrived the massacre happened shortly afterward. They did not understand the pleas made by the protestors. But if you got to CHina and Google T-Square (or the June 4the Incident), you will get a vastly different set of sites than you would here. Several Chinese students were questioned recently about T-Square and they knew nothing about it. It's no wonder they feel more "secure." Kent State Study Kent State was more than an issue of training. The protest had carried on for many days prior to the actual shooting and the guardsmen felt their lives were in jeopardy. In contrast, just a few days earlier, they were seen talking and acting friendly to the protestors as in T-Square. The protests were also nationwide, having increased after Nixon ordered an "incursion" (love that word) into Cambodia. Trials later validated the view that the guardsmen were in danger, especially when martial law was "rumored" to have been issued. (It was not.) But one civil trial ordered restitution to the 4 students who were killed in the amount equal to what it would cost the State of Ohio for a new trial. Later studies agreed with that judgement. The guardsmen did not feel they had to apologize but the general in charge of them did just before he died in 2008. I was just curious about how people's experiences were and the facts that exist to either support or contradict their view. I, too, have had a lot of incidents in many countries and the police were nowhere. I have also witnessed the French army getting as stupid as the Ohio NG in the Paris train station during the riots in 2007. That incident did not hit the newspapers as far as I know. Strangely, the people with me knew when to hit the ground and didn't seem the least bit afraid.

Not sure where to put this but here goes. The wife is always saying that China is safe and secure. The US has all these people who kill so many others and nothing seems to happen. But I say China's justice system is quite arbitrary and many innocent people are executed. (Maybe some not so innocent.) And there is just as much injustice toward victims as there is in the US. And we never hear about the ones who carry knives and mug you. The cops in China are just as fallible and subject to corruption as any police system. Maybe more. I am constantly being subjected to the generalizations about China, this one being the most common, especially in view of the latest round of mass murderers. It always starts with "China no have." Well, China does not have a lot of things, including freedom and justice. And it does have a lot of civil unrest where people do get killed. China Executes 9

Here's a link for cut and paste. www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/11/09/2009-11-09_fort_hood_gunman_nidal_malik_hasan_tried_to_contact_al_qaeda_and_us_intelligence.html Here's the link directly: Link To Hasan Al Qaeda Hot stuff.

Totally agree on this one. There is some word also that he was a converted Muslim.

I have read where the 5.7 pistol can carry 30 rounds but still that is a whole lot of action when this would be (presumably) the first time he fired "in anger." And he carried a pistol he supposedly used. I do agree about the friendly fire angle being suppressed. That would be soooo military. But he was in a processing center where the likelihood of an armed MP is rare. As to the Tampa guy, not sure the discussion is any different. Much of it still applies. My wife mentioned reading both stories and remarked America is unsafe. Another issue to deal with.....

Because in America we are not suppose to "profile",showing once again our stupidity.I still believe this was a terrorist act,but of course we will be told differently.So,like always,lets blame it on someone or something else,this time the army.The guy was a nut job. Me,Having dated a Muslim girl a few years ago.The crap that is taught to them at an early age,is down right scary.This girl i dated was an angel until you brought up "jews"and "infidels",and Muslim causes,and she became a person with an awful hateful mindset,very disturbing.These people do think very differently.....but hey I am profiling......and we dont profile,so nut jobs like this will continue to mingle into society un-noticed until thier time to die for their god,and take a few infidels with them.Hey just my 2 cents,take it or leave it,I am not bashing Muslims,just stating facts ,i am not saying All Muslims are terrorists,but unfortunetly in this point in history most terrorists are muslims.. Jimi I will go with warpedboard. I know many Muslims and they are not as conflicted as this guy seems to have been. They are good people and every one of them I know is quite upset about 9/11 and what this guy did in the name of his religion, if in fact, that is the case, which I doubt as well. And I don't agree that most terrorists are Muslims. In fact, the Muslim community I know disowns the acts of these terrorists. They are not acting in the name of Islam. They are just terrorists interested only in their own narcissistic ideas. This guy was just plain nuts. Had nothing to do with isolation or the TV, the lack of one, or guns themselves, or that he got by the officer candidate psychiatric interview. Just like Hannibal Lector, anyone an be fooled by someone who knows how to do it. I do like the idea that he was a coward, although that is an easy thing to say. He had other choices. If he is so moralistic about his life, he could have resigned his commission. But his ego would not allow that given his background. He came from dirt and didn't want to go back. He could not resolve that conflict. I still cannot believe he got off 100 rounds with an automatic pistol and revolver in that span of time. That's carrying and changing 6 or 7 clips and/or having several fast loads for the revolver. And having your hands occupied by the other gun. I would like to see how he did that.....I think the press needs to look into friendly fire..... I carried two 45's and had trouble trying to keep from shooting myself.

Dont know Eric I remember visiting Forts Bragg and Benning , seemed to me more weapons in base housing than I've even seeen anywhere. The rules are there but as I said, easily dodged. You can sneak in all kinds of things. The idea is to maintain inventory on things that belong to the military. I came back with a whole lotta stuff, non-explosive. Nice chrome 9mm I got off a Chinese officer. Made some money off that one. Hid it in my chest of drawers in the barracks, once I was out of the hospital. The difference was I came back with no pre-flight interview since I was injured. They just packed my gear and put it on the plane. But if you come on post with a non-issue weapon get ready for trouble. That kind of thing gets reported to the OD and onto the commanders.