The "Social Credit Blacklist"

[Randy W]

from the Sixth Tone

 

Soldiers Put on Social Credit Blacklist for Leaving Service

Seventeen servicemen in Jilin have been barred from planes and trains, among other penalties.

 

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On March 2, Chinese authorities announced a broader regulation for the country’s social credit system that outlined punishments for those who commit transgressions like spreading rumors related to terrorism, misbehaving on airplanes, or engaging in fraudulent activities. Such people, the regulation stated, could be prohibited from traveling on trains and planes for up to a year. The rule will go into effect nationwide on May 1, according to a statement on the website of the National Development and Reform Commission.

But for now, Jilin has its own rules. The municipal military recruitment office said the punished officers “lacked the willpower to adapt to military life” and had therefore applied to drop out of the service. The punishments, it continued, were based on a national law regarding the breach of military contracts. In China, refusing to fulfill one’s military duties is seen as a serious contractual violation — one that can result in criminal prosecution, according to the country’s military service law.

Yet despite the consequences, more and more Chinese are giving up on their defense dreams because of the hardships inherent in the job, an official news outlet of the People’s Liberation Army reported last year. As for their reasons for leaving, servicemen cited a lack of personal freedom and the difficulty of securing promotions.

A former soldier surnamed Chen told Sixth Tone that military service can be an attractive profession, especially for people in rural China, as it provides them with job security and spending money. But after the country’s economic boom, he said, young people have more educational and economic opportunities, making the rigor and austerity of military life less appealing.

“Many young people born after 1990 or 1995, or even 2000, are also the only child in their family, and they usually find that they are not cut out for military life and wish to return home,” Chen said.

 

 

Edited March 21, 2018 by Randy W
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[Randy W]

More from Chinadaily and Xinhua - zheese, what could go wrong ??!?

 

China improves credit blacklisting mechanism to avoid undue punishment

Xinhua | Updated: 2018-03-06 18:37

More than nine million Chinese have been denied air transportation and over three million people have been prohibited from buying soft sleeper train and bullet train tickets due to their poor credit performance, Zhang Yong, deputy head of the National Development and Reform Commission told a press conference.

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China started to build a social credit system in 2014 and an open national credit information online platform is already in place where honest people and enterprises are honored while poor credit performers like defaulting debtors and taxpayers are blacklisted.

Supported with punishment measures like restrictions on enjoying certain services, the platform helps promote honesty and deter dishonest behaviors.

However, it is reported that some credit defaulters still face limits to some public services after they paid back their debt or taxes.

 

 

[Bigguy_33]

By 2020, China plans to give all its 1.4. billion citizens a personal score based on how they behave. Some with low scores are already being punished if they want to travel, get mortgages or put their children in private schools. The program will start expanding nationwide

 

https://www.cbs.com/shows/cbs_this_morning/video/w38auT8S_gaOmB7J1fou34ddOxKw6Tsu/china-s-social-credit-score-bans-some-from-travel/

 

[dnoblett]

Ahh, socialism....

[Randy W]

. . . and a story from one of our members who's been bit by this - http://candleforlove.com/forums/topic/49564-china-ablacklistaa-should-we-be-concerned/

[Randy W]

Greg D first brought this up in 2015 - http://candleforlove.com/forums/topic/48236-social-credit-score/

[Greg.D.]

How do you call that "socialism"? Not even close.

 

It is totalitarianism. I guess China will do the experiment so the rest of the world can see how that works. I think they are betting on AI to come through in a big way for them, which might be an over-dependence. Otherwise, it is what China has always done: keep a file and registration on everybody.

 

I wonder why they feel they have to do this?

[Randy W]

from the SixthTone

 

Beijing Court Blacklists CEO of Bike-Sharing Company Ofo

Dai Wei is now barred from renting property, going on vacation, booking first-class tickets, and six other forms of extravagant spending.

 

 

The news comes days after hundreds of Ofo customers showed up at the company’s headquarters in Beijing hoping to get their deposits refunded.

According to a document issued Dec. 4 by Beijing’s Haidian District court, Dai Wei — the 27-year-old founder and CEO of Ofo, which, along with its rival Mobike, once dominated China’s shared-bike market — has been greatly limited in how he can spend his or his company’s money. The penalty is the result of a logistics company appealing to the court to make Ofo “fulfill the terms of a contract.” While the document does not specify whether Ofo owed the logistics company money, it does refer to Dai as “the debtor.”

The document lists nine ways that Dai is now prohibited from spending money without the court’s express approval: traveling, taking vacations, buying or renting property, renovating, buying cars, buying financial products, spending excessively at hotels or golf courses, taking high-speed trains, sending his children to expensive private schools, and booking transport higher than second class. The document states that if Dai fails to comply with the court’s order, he could be detained, fined, or — in the event of a serious violation — criminally prosecuted.

 

 

[Randy W]

from the SCMP - an excellent summary of where it is for now

 

Hi-tech dystopian plot or low-key incentive scheme? The complex reality of China’s social credit system

• A dozen or so cities throughout the country are test beds for carrot-and-stick programmes to encourage businesses and individuals to comply with existing rules
• The efforts have been roundly condemned overseas as Orwellian but for members of the public, the impact of the systems can vary

 

 

 

Every day, Yang, 52, roams Jiakuang Majia village with a pen and paper in hand, writing down every instance of free labour or other donations her fellow villagers make to the community – two points for Ma Shaojun for taking eight hours to install a new basketball hoop in the village playground; 30 points for Ma Hongyun for donating a 3,000-yuan (US$445) TV screen for the village meeting room; and 10 points each for Ma Shuting and Ma Qiuling who have a son serving in the army in Tibet.

The points are added to the villagers’ personal “credit scores”, which are tied to community welfare programmes. High scorers get more rice, cooking oil and cash rewards from the village committee and are lauded on village bulletin boards as role models.

At the same time, points are deducted for bad behaviour such as littering or neglecting care of elderly parents.

 

This is what China’s much talked about social credit system looks like on the ground in the countryside of Rongcheng, a sleepy city on the eastern tip of the Shandong peninsula and one of a dozen “model” centres lauded for their success in piloting the programme.

The system relies a series of rewards and punishments meant to encourage people and businesses to abide by rules and to promote integrity and trustworthiness in society at large.

According to the official blueprint released in 2014, a national system will be rolling out by 2020 to “allow the trustworthy to benefit wherever they go while making it difficult for the discredited to take a single step”.

 

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At First Morning Light, a gated community touted by the government as a social credit success story, a young man running a convenient store opposite one such noticeboard has little interest.

“It’s for those old retirees who have nothing much to do every day,” he said.

 

 

[Randy W]

from Abacus

 

China's social credit system is becoming a reality

Local governments are scrambling to realize Beijing's sweeping vision

In China, you can tell that a government project is a big deal when it gets its own theme song and music video. This year, that honor goes to the social credit system, scheduled to be in full effect by 2020 according to the China Internet Report 2019.

 

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Just this month, police in the eastern metropolis of Nanjing began penalizing frequent traffic offenders by downrating their social credit. Citizens who jaywalk five times or more in a year will be deemed “untrustworthy.” They will be summoned for talks with authorities or receive a warning. More serious offenders will be registered in a public database and face punishment from various government agencies.

 

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In Beijing, authorities proposed in April to lower the social credit of anyone caught eating or taking up more than one seat on trains. Some wondered if the system grants too much power to officials like subway attendants, without the legal protection of due process.

 

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As one taxi driver in the eastern city of Rongcheng told the South China Morning Post, “It is just part of the government’s usual propaganda. It has nothing to do with our lives.”

Rongcheng’s social credit system, founded seven years ago, ranks residents by their scores. High performers -- those who do volunteer work, donate blood and engage in other beneficial activities -- enjoy benefits like free health checks and cheaper utility bills. But few people seem to pay much attention, except for those working government jobs or applying for public funding.

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The Supreme Court compiles a national blacklist of “discredited citizens,” most of them debtors who failed to pay up or unruly passengers caught on trains and flights. These people are banned from flying, vacationing and other activities considered luxuries by the government. To date, more than 14 million individuals have landed on the list, according to a counter on the Supreme Court website.

 

 

 

I haven't heard anything about our friend with the fitness club - I expect he's been told to lay low by his lawyers - hopefully, he's been able to fix things.

 

http://candleforlove.com/forums/topic/48071-serpentza-and-other-vloggers/?p=641332

 

although the social credit "system" seems to still be a mish-mash of different local tweaks.