Malaysia to China plane missing (MH-370)

[danb]

The Diego Garcia theories are intriguing. Perhaps believable. But, I am not sure if I would buy them. I guess it is possible but if it is true ,then how many people in our government are helping to keep it a secret. That valuable patent. For the company that now owns 100% of it, would they willing to kill over 200 people? Or would they be willing to imprison those 200+ people. For how long? . Why are they keeping that IBM person alive and segregated? What are they planning to do with those four patent holders. Wouldn't the family of those four missing engineers own the patent rights anyway? Lots of questions but interesting hearing the theories. DannyB

[Randy W]

The Diego Garcia theories are intriguing. Perhaps believable. But, I am not sure if I would buy them. I guess it is possible but if it is true ,then how many people in our government are helping to keep it a secret. That valuable patent. For the company that now owns 100% of it, would they willing to kill over 200 people? Or would they be willing to imprison those 200+ people. For how long? . Why are they keeping that IBM person alive and segregated? What are they planning to do with those four patent holders. Wouldn't the family of those four missing engineers own the patent rights anyway? Lots of questions but interesting hearing the theories. DannyB

 

No - the patent is owned by the company, dead or alive. At least, that's the agreement when you hire on. I have a patent myself that I've never collected a dime on, except for a bonus from the company.

 

One interesting aspect to patents is that they not only inform competitors as to what you did, they also provide a blueprint for other companies as to how to get around it. All they need to do is come up with a work-around that avoids duplication of the exact conditions. For this reason, companies these days are more reluctant to take out patents. Similar to the ways some early competitors to the IBM PC reverse engineered a work-around to the early compatibility issues.

[Randy W]

The patent shows that the company was the original assignee, NOT the inventors

 

US law, unlike foreign law, requires a patent application to be in the name of the inventor. A company cannot be the inventive entity.

 

The definition for inventorship can be simply explained: The threshold question in determining inventorship is who conceived of the invention. Unless a person contributes to the conception of the invention, he is not an inventor. The inventor maintains intellectual domination over the invention. An inventor has to contribute something to the conception of the invention, not merely be the supervisor of the inventor or someone that acted under the direction and supervision of the inventor.

 

The assignee is the entity that has the property right to the patent. Patents are property. The inventor and the assignee may be one in the same but an employee will more than likely assign a patent to a company.

 

[danb]

There are reports on CNN news on the TV and the internet that a Chinese ship, the Haixun 01, has picked up a signal. It is possible from the MH370. The signal was reported by Chinese news agency maybe 12 hours ago. At this point the Australian are not releasing anything official. After 12 hours you would hope there would be something official from them. Let's hope that this helps the search team to pinpoint the plane. Here is a link to the story on CNN:

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/05/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

Danb

Edited April 9, 2014 by Randy W (see edit history)

[ameriken]

There are reports on CNN news on the TV and the internet that a Chinese ship, the Haixun 01, has picked up a signal. It is possible from the MH370. The signal was reported by Chinese news agency maybe 12 hours ago. At this point the Australian are not releasing anything official. After 12 hours you would hope there would be something official from them. Let's hope that this helps the search team to pinpoint the plane. Here is a link to the story on CNN:

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/05/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

Danb

 

They're stating there are other objects that could give a ping at that frequency, but what makes this unique are the one-second intervals.

 

But everyone keeps showing some skepticism since this hasn't been officially confirmed by the Aussies.

Edited April 9, 2014 by Randy W (see edit history)

[Randy W]

Search leader confirms suspected signals detected by both Australian, Chinese vessels

 

 

Chief Coordinator of the multinational search team hunting for the missing Malaysian flight MH370 on Sunday confirmed that vessels from both Australia and China had detected suspected pulse signals in recent days, saying more ships and planes are deployed for further verifications and he is satisfied with the current cooperation with China.

 

Angus Houston, head of the Joint Agency Coordination Center ( JACC) told a press conference that he was well advised by the Chinese side about the "ping" picked up by the search vessel Haixun 01 in the past two days.

 

According to media reports, experts onboard the Haixun 01 detected a pulse signal twice with a frequency of 37.5 kHz per second, which is the same as emitted by flight recorders.

 

Houston told reporters Haixun 01 redetected the signals for 90 seconds Saturday within just 2 km of the original detection following its discovery on Friday.

 

. . .

 

"The water in which Haixun 01 is working at the moment is 4,500 meters deep which is incredible, so any recovery operation is going to be very challenging and very demanding and will take a long period of time," said the chief. "First of all, we have to establish the fact that there's something down there, we are a long way from making that conclusion," he added.

 

Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott who is currently in Japan said he is "hopeful" but "not certain" about the Chinese detection.

 

"It's a very difficult mission and we need to be very careful about jumping to a quick conclusion," he said.

 

Australian Defense Minister David Johnston also urged caution over the new findings, saying they could be another false lead.

 

 

[danb]

Maybe they are closing in on the one of the black boxes. From what I have read the pings that one of the search vessels heard is being called an "acoustical event". Why do they call it an "acoustical event" , and not a ping I don't know. Maybe they are just being cautious. The two different acoustical events were detected about 300 miles apart. That is seems to be pretty far apart from one and another. I wonder if they are hearing pings from the two different boxes. Or are they just false or misleading reports. Lets hope not. Danb

[dnoblett]

CNN did it??

 

Satire alert...

 

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Malaysia Suspects CNN May Have Downed Flight 370

 

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Malaysian investigators now believe the American news network CNN may have ordered the downing of Malaysia Air Flight 370 in an effort to boost its flagging ratings.

 

At a press conference today in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said that police were looking into the theory that executives at world’s first cable news channel may have somehow influenced someone on board the aircraft during its fateful flight.

“There are a number of suspicious circumstances in the case,” he told reporters, “But is anything more suspicious than the fact a CNN reporter interviewed the flight’s co-pilot just weeks before he disappeared?

 

“Whenever you have a mystery, one must ask the question: who benefits? Nobody has benefited more from the tragedy of Flight 370 than CNN. They've made hundreds of millions of dollars off all this coverage. That’s reason enough to be suspicious.

"If you were looking to engineer a news story, it would look a lot like Flight 370. Why else would you crash a plane in the middle of the ocean? A weeks-long search is exactly what these networks needed."

 

MORE...

http://dailycurrant.com/2014/04/08/malaysia-suspects-cnn-may-have-downed-flight-370/

[NUWORLD]

CNN did it??

 

Satire alert...

 

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Malaysia Suspects CNN May Have Downed Flight 370

 

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Malaysian investigators now believe the American news network CNN may have ordered the downing of Malaysia Air Flight 370 in an effort to boost its flagging ratings.

 

At a press conference today in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said that police were looking into the theory that executives at world’s first cable news channel may have somehow influenced someone on board the aircraft during its fateful flight.

“There are a number of suspicious circumstances in the case,” he told reporters, “But is anything more suspicious than the fact a CNN reporter interviewed the flight’s co-pilot just weeks before he disappeared?

 

“Whenever you have a mystery, one must ask the question: who benefits? Nobody has benefited more from the tragedy of Flight 370 than CNN. They've made hundreds of millions of dollars off all this coverage. That’s reason enough to be suspicious.

"If you were looking to engineer a news story, it would look a lot like Flight 370. Why else would you crash a plane in the middle of the ocean? A weeks-long search is exactly what these networks needed."

 

MORE...

http://dailycurrant.com/2014/04/08/malaysia-suspects-cnn-may-have-downed-flight-370/

Really??

 

I find this hard to believe.

Though our wonderful media sometime bends the truth.

 

I find it hard to believe that said media group would down a international flight with hundreds of people

just to get ratings?

 

This has to be a joke.

Edited April 8, 2014 by NUWORLD (see edit history)

[ameriken]

Daily Currant is satire. But I found it quite funny considering how CNN has been running the crap out of this story.

 

"Breaking News: Malaysia Flight 370 has NOT been found, updates to follow" LMAO

[Randy W]

from a USAToday email alert a few minutes ago

 

Australian Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, who is heading the search for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, said the Australian vessel Ocean Shield twice reacquired a signal said to be consistent with aircraft black boxes on Tuesday. Ocean Shield detected two similar transmissions over the weekend, and searchers have been racing to fix their position before the batteries of the black boxes die.

 

 

It's not clear if "Tuesday" means yesterday, or today (it's Wednesday over here right now - Tuesday would have been 12 to 24 hours ago) - but, of course, Tuesday is TODAY in the U.S.

[Randy W]

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[Guest ExChinaExpat]

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After so many loose ends and mixed messages it's finally looking like they've found it.

 

 

 

Australia's Air Force Drops Sonar Buoys to Locate Signals Possibly From Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Sonar Buoys Typically Used in Antisubmarine Warfare

By DANIEL STACEY

Updated April 9, 2014 3:42 a.m. ET

The towed pinger locator is deployed off the Ocean Shield ship in the Indian Ocean. Australian Department of Defense /European Pressphoto Agency

In the rush to locate further signals that may be from Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU +2.44% Flight 370's "black box" flight recorders, the Australian air force is dropping sonar buoys typically used in antisubmarine warfare across the current search area.

On Wednesday, Australia sent a P-3 Orion military aircraft to drop the buoys in a remote patch of the southern Indian Ocean some 570 nautical miles off the remote northwest coast of Australia. That is broadly in the same spot where the defense vessel Ocean Shield detected a stream of signals on four separate occasions since Saturday, and where the naval crew is looking for more using a high-tech underwater listening device.

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Edited April 9, 2014 by Randy W
hopefully fix links (see edit history)

[dnoblett]

More from CNN, this time spinning the alive and well angle...

 

http://youtu.be/jpKot27qbyw

[dnoblett]

Getting very strange, you would think all modern jetliners would be equipped with real-time satellite tracking that cannot be turned off during flight, the device would be like a real time black box, it would upload in real-time, flight data, cockpit voice, and GPS data, uploading to satellite, so a plane cannot be lost.

Here is an article posted on Wired Mag that supports what I was saying.

 

 

 

Banish the Black Box: There’s a Better Way to Capture Plane Crash Data

 

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But that’s an economic challenge. The technical ones are less daunting. The Iridium network, which covers the entire globe with 66 orbiting satellites, could probably accommodate the bandwidth needed to transmit at least the 88 required parameters from the 8,000 or so commercial flights in operation at any moment. Krishna M. Kavi, a professor of computer science at the University of North Texas, estimates that the worldwide demand would be about 64 megabits per second, only a portion of which would have to be sent by satellite. Using different assumptions, Seymour Levine, an inventor who has devised his own telemetry, estimates the maximum bandwidth requirement at 25 Mbps and the total storage requirement for a day’s worth of data at 100 gigabytes—a quarter the speed of a fast broadband connection and less disk space than an iPod classic.

 

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After the Air France disaster, the International Civil Aviation Organization convened a panel on how to ensure that black-box data is never again lost in a crash. One proposal garnering support is to require duplicate black boxes that would automatically eject from a plane on impact, propelled by compressed air or even a small explosive charge. Equipped with GPS and a radio transmitter, they would float on the surface of an ocean, broadcasting their location. Such a pop-out, pop-up box would be far less expensive than full-scale, always-on data streaming—and for all its advanced technology, the airline industry, which in most of the world is directly or indirectly controlled by national governments, is remarkably conservative and penurious.

 

Still, some limited version of data streaming will probably be adopted, according to participants in the meetings. “Triggered transmissions,” which would begin automatically when certain safety parameters like airspeed, vertical descent rates, roll, or pitch are exceeded, would offer most of the safety benefits at a fraction of the cost of an always-on system. Based on existing crash data, engineers have even devised experimental algorithms that can tell with near-perfect accuracy when a plane is in danger of crashing about 30 seconds in advance—in a simulation. Obviously, you would still want the black boxes to reconstruct the whole scenario after the fact, but that’s the point: The transmission would also give you the plane’s last location, so you’d know where to start looking, giving you a head start not just on finding the black box but on dispatching rescue and recovery teams.

 

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http://www.wired.com/2011/06/ff_blackboxes/