4th DUI

[NUWORLD]

Well as the topic says, 4th DUI

The good news it's not for myself but other than Bob.

 

My buddy were helping with a visa for hongs sister.

 

I get a call from Cleveland PD this last Sunday @4am (you guessed it. Collect call) from Bob saying he needs a ride home.

 

So I go and get him and on the way home he tells me this is his 4th DUI.

 

I say WTF!!! You told us you had never been arrested.

Now I'm pissed off thinking this visa process just got that much more difficult.

 

My question is this, will Bob having 4 DUIs be a problem?

[chilton747]

I know this ain't answering your question but a 4th DUI demonstrates a lack of good judgement don't cha think?

[NUWORLD]

I know this ain't answering your question but a 4th DUI demonstrates a lack of good judgement don't cha think?

What's up buddy? Yes very poor judgement indeed.

I could go off on some crazy rant about this but it won't solve anything.

Just gives ya an idea how I feel???

Edited August 6, 2013 by NUWORLD (see edit history)

[credzba]

 

I know this ain't answering your question but a 4th DUI demonstrates a lack of good judgement don't cha think?

What's up buddy? Yes very poor judgement indeed.

I could go off on some crazy rant about this but it won't solve anything.

Just gives ya an idea how I feel???

 

 

In Texas, the first dui is a misdemeanor, but the second, and I am SURE the fourth is a felony.

I believe a felony conviction is enough to kill a visa application.. not certain just I think so.

[tsap seui]

Well sir, having had my 3 times of standing in court with a lawyer for being stupid beyond belief as well as a hard core drug addict and an alcoholic I can tells ya Mike, rather this interferes with immigration in any way shape or form, you may wanna think twice about your wife's sister coming over to America to live with a guy with a very definite, and chronic problem.

 

This is sad to hear, both for your wife's sister, and for Bob. I'm no counselor, but I'd say you need to have a heart to heart with ol' Bob and see how he feels about getting sober....for a whole year at least and then attempt to bring a Chinese woman, who gives up everything she knows and understands, to come live in America with him.

 

May sound harsh but Bob has to decide to stop the insanity and get on track with life. I'm not talking about life as seen through the bottom of an empty glass. You aren't going to be able to talk Bob into something like this buddy, only Bob can take the first step. I can well testify to ya man, 4 DUI's is not a guy who socially drinks, nor is it a social drinker who just happens to be unlucky. You let this guy bring your wife's sister over here, without his getting sober for a year, and I'll put money on the fact that your in law will soon be moving in with you, and you'll be listening to a very sad story for awhile.

 

Good luck Mike, and good luck to Bob. I hope you don't let this happen to your sister in-law. I hate to hear sad stories about Chinese women who came to America.

 

tsap seui

[dnoblett]

Heat get questioned, however it does not involve violence against women, children or assault, so is not something that would derail the petition.

 

Ask him are there any other skeletons in the closet?

[warpedbored]

My sister did 2 years in the Idaho State Penitentiary for her 3rd felony DUI. That did the trick. She's sober now. I don't know about Ohio but it stands to reason he could do time over it.

[NUWORLD]

Well sir, having had my 3 times of standing in court with a lawyer for being stupid beyond belief as well as a hard core drug addict and an alcoholic I can tells ya Mike, rather this interferes with immigration in any way shape or form, you may wanna think twice about your wife's sister coming over to America to live with a guy with a very definite, and chronic problem.

 

This is sad to hear, both for your wife's sister, and for Bob. I'm no counselor, but I'd say you need to have a heart to heart with ol' Bob and see how he feels about getting sober....for a whole year at least and then attempt to bring a Chinese woman, who gives up everything she knows and understands, to come live in America with him.

 

May sound harsh but Bob has to decide to stop the insanity and get on track with life. I'm not talking about life as seen through the bottom of an empty glass. You aren't going to be able to talk Bob into something like this buddy, only Bob can take the first step. I can well testify to ya man, 4 DUI's is not a guy who socially drinks, nor is it a social drinker who just happens to be unlucky. You let this guy bring your wife's sister over here, without his getting sober for a year, and I'll put money on the fact that your in law will soon be moving in with you, and you'll be listening to a very sad story for awhile.

 

Good luck Mike, and good luck to Bob. I hope you don't let this happen to your sister in-law. I hate to hear sad stories about Chinese women who came to America. ( I would never let anything happen to my little sister )

 

tsap seui

 

 

Thanks buddy, Though both my wife and i have talked to bob about this before.

Not knowing there where 3 others.

 

This IS a problem and will be dealt with swiftly and to the point.

Sister in-law already knows about it and of course is not happy.

 

Though no visa papers have yet to be filed and WILL be put on hold until this gets fixed and straighten

out.

 

IMO: I think it's time to do some back ground checks.

.

[NUWORLD]

Found this ohio.gov.

 

 

3rd DUI conviction and beyond

• DUI penalties continue to increase the more you are convicted of DUI.
• With 3 or more prior DUIs within 6 years, any further DUI is a 4th Degree Felony.
• With 5 or more prior DUIs within 20 years, any further DUI is a 4th Degree Felony.
• Fines increase to range from $850 minimum to $10,500 maximum.
• Mandatory treatment, license suspension (including lifetime suspensions), vehicle forfeiture, mandatory DUI plates and Interlock devices.

 

[Mick]

I am reluctant to raise this issue, but I think it needs to be considered. Is he by any chance a "mean" drunk? Does he get beligerent when he has been drinking? Profound personality changes, etc? The reason I ask is that your wife's sister could wind up in an abusive situation should that be the case. Again, I am not trying to insinuate that he is an abuser. I just think the question needs to be asked for the sake of your wife's sister. My hope and prayer is that whatever the case, this guy can get the help he needs and get sober. Life with an active alcoholic is hell....

[NUWORLD]

I am reluctant to raise this issue, but I think it needs to be considered. Is he by any chance a "mean" drunk? Does he get belligerent when he has been drinking? Profound personality changes, etc? The reason I ask is that your wife's sister could wind up in an abusive situation should that be the case. Again, I am not trying to insinuate that he is an abuser. I just think the question needs to be asked for the sake of your wife's sister. My hope and prayer is that whatever the case, this guy can get the help he needs and get sober. Life with an active alcoholic is hell....

 

 

Ya bring up a good point here Mick and should be thought about.

From the few times i have seen him drink to much he is a good drunk.

Funny and nice to be around.

The only time he gets belligerent is when he gets pulled over by the Cops

and then his mouth gets him into deeper trouble.

 

Don't get me wrong. Bob is a good guy and would help anyone in need at anytime.

He just drinks to much at times/everyday?

 

This i don't know for I do not see him everyday.

[tsap seui]

 

Well sir, having had my 3 times of standing in court with a lawyer for being stupid beyond belief as well as a hard core drug addict and an alcoholic I can tells ya Mike, rather this interferes with immigration in any way shape or form, you may wanna think twice about your wife's sister coming over to America to live with a guy with a very definite, and chronic problem.

 

This is sad to hear, both for your wife's sister, and for Bob. I'm no counselor, but I'd say you need to have a heart to heart with ol' Bob and see how he feels about getting sober....for a whole year at least and then attempt to bring a Chinese woman, who gives up everything she knows and understands, to come live in America with him.

 

May sound harsh but Bob has to decide to stop the insanity and get on track with life. I'm not talking about life as seen through the bottom of an empty glass. You aren't going to be able to talk Bob into something like this buddy, only Bob can take the first step. I can well testify to ya man, 4 DUI's is not a guy who socially drinks, nor is it a social drinker who just happens to be unlucky. You let this guy bring your wife's sister over here, without his getting sober for a year, and I'll put money on the fact that your in law will soon be moving in with you, and you'll be listening to a very sad story for awhile.

 

Good luck Mike, and good luck to Bob. I hope you don't let this happen to your sister in-law. I hate to hear sad stories about Chinese women who came to America. ( I would never let anything happen to my little sister )

 

tsap seui

 

 

Thanks buddy, Though both my wife and i have talked to bob about this before.

Not knowing there where 3 others.

 

This IS a problem and will be dealt with swiftly and to the point.

Sister in-law already knows about it and of course is not happy.

 

Though no visa papers have yet to be filed and WILL be put on hold until this gets fixed and straighten

out.

 

IMO: I think it's time to do some back ground checks.

.

Ol' Bob is salvageable, Mike. There are many of us right here on Candle who have been in his shoes, and changed our ways. Alcoholism is a terrible disease to have, but there is help....not a cure, but a person can stop the insanity. Carl and I and others here can well testify to making the change. I hope Bob can get help and change, I feel for the guy, and I know he is probably a decent fella in the aspects of his life. He just needs the trigger (and maybe this 4th DUI with the ramifications of how his drinking is affecting his whole life now) will be that trigger for him to take that all important first step and admit his life is out of control, that he can not control his drinking.

 

As a hard core alcoholic drug addict I just couldn't set back and see him bring an innocent person over here without speaking up. I'm sorry to see this happen to your sister in-law, you, and your family. This 4th DUI can be a blessing in many ways, and crazy as it sounds, one of those ways, along with the fact that Bob's problematic drinking is now open to your family, is that this could be where Bob takes his first step towards change, and living a good life. I'm sure he is a decent guy, heck, you liked him before and I'm sure your instincts were right about his "goodness". But, he has a disease buddy. An insidious disease that tells him that he is okay, that it's others that are wrong about his drinking being a problem, that it's his non luck with the police, etc.

 

Bob can be salvaged, but it takes Bob to admit his problem, get the help he needs to stop drinking.....forever. You need this talk with Bob, but I hope you don't just kick him to the curb. You liked him and thought he was fit for your sister in-law, and she liked him too. He can change, and be even better than he was before. It's not gonna be easy, and yes, it will require time. I gave that one year of sobriety as merely a guide point. Bob looks like a bad guy to everyone right now, but he can change all of this.

 

I'm glad no paperwork has been submitted yet on the immigration. When you have your talk with Bob, you'll probably see very quickly if he is ready to take his first step and do what he has to do to change his life. If he's not ready now, with what he has to face with the law, AND with your sister in-law, then you may want to call the whole thing off as he may never be ready to change. But the guy deserves a shot at making this change.

 

Thank goodness this problem showed itself when it did. Bob may have been able to hide his problem from his friends and acquaintances, but your sister in-law, living with him 24/7 would have found out and things would have gone downhill fairly quickly.

 

Good luck to you, all.

 

tsap seui

[dnoblett]

Heat get questioned, however it does not involve violence against women, children or assault, so is not something that would derail the petition.

 

Ask him are there any other skeletons in the closet?

I will add some research, highly doubtful that the DUIs will have any affect.

 

http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/petitioner-s-dui-and-wife-s-visa-interview-640346.html

 

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110207112106AAKH4JW

 

Most of the topics I find have to do with beneficiary's DUI not applicant.

[NUWORLD]

Ok, so we all know that we all go through a back ground check from many agency's around the world during this visa process.

 

What are they checking for and how detailed of the back ground is it?

[dnoblett]

The background check is looking for Adam Walsh Act issuses, things like felony convictions for crimes against women and children, pedifiles, child porn, etc.