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#181 tsap seui

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Posted 20 May 2017 - 10:52 AM

Well, HOORAY!!!! Let others, as Richard Rawlings would say, "get them some too" and, fight the dang wars. 


I grew up with C,S,N,&Y singin' about world peace...and how we could "change the world".

Now, happily young in my later 60's I can only say that I think that as long as there are two human beings left standing...there will be wars.  :flowers_and_kisses:  :cheering:  :king:  :clapping: 


Yes Graham, Stephen, Neil, and David...we changed the world alright. AH HA HA HA HA HAH and a HARDY HAR HAR

Edited by tsap seui, 20 May 2017 - 10:53 AM.

#182 Randy W

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Posted Yesterday, 03:33 AM

from TIME


In a First Under Trump, a U.S. Warship Challenges Beijing's Claims in the South China Sea



A U.S. Navy warship sailed within 12 nautical miles of an artificial island built up by China in the South China Sea, U.S. officials said on Wednesday, the first such challenge to Beijing in the strategic waterway since U.S. President Donald Trump took office.
The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the USS Dewey traveled close to the Mischief Reef in the Spratly Islands, among a string of islets, reefs and shoals over which China has territorial disputes with its neighbors.


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One U.S. official said it was the first operation near a land feature which was included in a ruling last year against China by an international arbitration court in The Hague. The court invalidated China's claim to sovereignty over large swathes of the South China Sea.
The U.S. patrol, the first of its kind since October, marked the latest attempt to counter what Washington sees as Beijing's efforts to limit freedom of navigation in the strategic waters.
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Under the previous administration, the U.S. Navy conducted several such voyages through the South China Sea. The last operation was approved by then-President Barack Obama.
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Previous freedom of navigation operations have gone within 12 nautical miles of Subi and Fiery Cross reefs, two other features in the Spratlys built up by China, but both of those features are entitled to a territorial sea.
Mischief Reef was not entitled to a territorial sea as it was underwater at high tide before it was built up by China and was not close enough to another feature entitled to such a territorial sea, said Poling.
He said the key question was whether the U.S. warship had engaged in a real challenge to the Chinese claims by turning on radar or launching a helicopter or boat -- actions not permitted in a territorial sea under international law.
Otherwise, critics say, the operation would have resembled what is known as "innocent passage" and could have reinforced rather than challenged China's claim to a territorial limit around the reef.



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Posted Yesterday, 04:51 AM

Looks low enough that one good typhoon should erase it back to its original state, or at least below high tide again.
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#184 Randy W

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Posted Yesterday, 06:42 AM

in the SCMP



Chinese defence ministry says it sent two destroyers to ‘warn and drive away’ US warship that sailed near island in Spratlys



"Guided-missile destroyer the USS Dewey sailed within 12 nautical miles of the Mischief Reef in the Spratly Islands. "


The Chinese foreign ministry also issued a statement condemning the US move, saying such a provocative action “violated China’s sovereignty and security interests”.


Observers noted that Beijing’s statements appeared to be more moderate than its previous responses, signalling China’s reluctance to exaggerate the impact on bilateral ties, which have show signs of warming since the first summit between Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping.


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