CCP PROBLEMS DISCUSSION STILL INSTERESTED IN?

[weitanai]

Here I hope we can discuss more about the CCP problem.

When current CCP(or you can say former CCP, cause not paying the due for a period does not count as resignation formally) was asked “are you a member of CCP” , he or she can reply honestly “NO”, and this scenario has been proven by many CFL members, but what if they ask “have you ever….”, then what to say? I concluded from this forum, many who denied at the first question, should say “yes” at this time.

 

But I am wondering, some say after saying yes, people should submit a statement for this issue, but should people submit any proof for no being a CCP? I meant no paying membership due would never give people a “on paper” proof to this issue… any suggestion and views on this? Or they should try to get a own debt notice from the organization?

 

As far as I know, it is not that easy for this kind of “on paper” documents. Another question is ,what if they are asked for a certificate for “not a member of”? the organization would never give out such docs normally, what if they fail to submit these doc, but only stating he/she is not a member, and explain the reason why can’t get such docs, is this feasible?

Edited September 9, 2010 by weitanai (see edit history)

[Randy W]

Yes - the Chinese authorities determine what documents they will give out - the Consulate accepts them. They have no control over what is issued by the Chinese government.

 

This applies for the birth certificate as well, in some cases.

 

But if you get a document from the CCP, that would imply that you have connections to the CCP, and may be cause for further investigation.

 

If ANY document is unobtainable, you should submit a statement of WHY it is unobtainable, and what effort you made to obtain it.

[weitanai]

but the point is since you said you had not paid the membership due for a long time, and you are not a member, then you said you ever were, but no evidence to show your current status(only your flimsy statement), would that results in a suspicion? anyone who experience this? like said i was a former ccp but i quit then no proofs could provided and successfully got a visa at last?

[Randy W]

You might want to answer the questions truthfully, and let them decide whether to give you the visa.

 

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18937

 

it is up to the consular officer to evaluate that evidence.

[Randy W]

Because it's the law...

 

 

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14090

[weitanai]

I have check that content before, thank you for you information, seems USCONGUZ is always caution for this sensitive issue. And just because of this not so transparent info from official channel, makes us in a dilemma in answering such questions.

[dnoblett]

Truth is the paramount thing here, if the document says if you have ever been a member the the answer is "YES". This is an easy waiver, they will NOT deny a visa for this reason, only in most cases require a little more processing.

 

Saying no is a LIE and is MISREPRESENTATION a BIGGER and more e SERIOUS cause for a DENIAL. There is a waiver for CCP membership, there is NO waiver for misrepresentation.

 

I have seen cases where a visa has been acquired with misrepresentation, only to later have green-card REVOKED, and person DEPORTED.

 

For example the Servanos of Selinsgrove PA: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312021,00.html They misrepresented their marriage before getting visas, it eventually caught them years later when applying for citizenship.

 

My wife had served in the Chinese Army, the record is un-obtainable, however we did indicate she served in the army on the forms.

Edited September 9, 2010 by dnoblett (see edit history)