tsap seui Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Stand your ground China...Don't back down. tsap seui Link to comment
Robert S. Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 The way the centers of power are so diffuse in American politics the US is always sending a mixed message, but I believe the State Department behind the scenes is continuing with the same policy of constructive engagement, not antagonism or criticism. And, happily, there is the huge grass roots movement which we exemplify of sharing cultural understanding. The US and China are partners, not enemies. Link to comment
Robert S. Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 I hate all anti-China rants, except those involving anti-pollution. Link to comment
Guest Tony n Terrific Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Stand your ground China...Don't back down. tsap seuiRonnie you like myself are entitled to our opinions. I am surprised that you would you would take a stand against the USA. I read in your posts that you went beyond the call of duty in Nam. You demonstrated bravery and call to duty. You believed then in Duty, Honor, Country. Today according to your posts you have been able to have very sizeable VA benefits and pensions for your heroic efforts. Yea you and your Special Other got got a raw deal in Guangzhou. If the US continues to loose jobs and wealth there will be no funds to help veterans like yourself and the American people. Looking out for each other begins at home. Link to comment
GDBILL Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Stand your ground China...Don't back down. tsap seuiRonnie you like myself are entitled to our opinions. I am surprised that you would you would take a stand against the USA. I read in your posts that you went beyond the call of duty in Nam. You demonstrated bravery and call to duty. You believed then in Duty, Honor, Country. Today according to your posts you have been able to have very sizeable VA benefits and pensions for your heroic efforts. Yea you and your Special Other got got a raw deal in Guangzhou. If the US continues to loose jobs and wealth there will be no funds to help veterans like yourself and the American people. Looking out for each other begins at home. Narrow-minded approach. I guess using your logic it's ok to be intellectually dishonest, lie, steal ... maybe even murder ... if it's for your country. Link to comment
Guest Tony n Terrific Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Stand your ground China...Don't back down. tsap seuiRonnie you like myself are entitled to our opinions. I am surprised that you would you would take a stand against the USA. I read in your posts that you went beyond the call of duty in Nam. You demonstrated bravery and call to duty. You believed then in Duty, Honor, Country. Today according to your posts you have been able to have very sizeable VA benefits and pensions for your heroic efforts. Yea you and your Special Other got got a raw deal in Guangzhou. If the US continues to loose jobs and wealth there will be no funds to help veterans like yourself and the American people. Looking out for each other begins at home. Narrow-minded approach. I guess using your logic it's ok to be intellectually dishonest, lie, steal ... maybe even murder ... if it's for your country.I'm going to be right up front with you. I do not like you or your caustic remarks about the US. I complimented Tsap Seui for his courage and dedication. Ijust wonderd why he would be giving China credenance. This is something that a person like you is not accustomed to. You have hostile contempt for our country and therefore you have contempt for my family and my way of life. Where I come from and you spoke of the US the way you have, you would need an athletic supporter, plenty of beef steak and your cologne would be of the scent of Ben Gay. Why don't you sign the necessary papers and become a person w/o a country and proclaim your self a true 5th columnist that you really are. You are a very angry insignificant zero. Your handle tells it all GDBILL thats where you will wind up at. You blasphemous loser. I have been shown some of your PMs to other members that you used nothing but idle threats and vulgarity towards them, When a person uses vulgarity the way you do toward people it shows your dedication to your low self esteem and poor self imaging. I do have to warn you some of these guys are real men and they do not like being threaten or called names by a zilch like you. I would recomend that you never go to a CFL get together. You may have the chance to meet someone from the 6 o'clock news.... All bad. Link to comment
tsap seui Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Stand your ground China...Don't back down. tsap seuiRonnie you like myself are entitled to our opinions. I am surprised that you would you would take a stand against the USA. I read in your posts that you went beyond the call of duty in Nam. You demonstrated bravery and call to duty. You believed then in Duty, Honor, Country. Today according to your posts you have been able to have very sizeable VA benefits and pensions for your heroic efforts. Yea you and your Special Other got got a raw deal in Guangzhou. If the US continues to loose jobs and wealth there will be no funds to help veterans like yourself and the American people. Looking out for each other begins at home. Tony, I wish the best for America. I haven't changed but the America I volunteered to defend has. I don't say what I did out of anger at the criminal acts of grocery clerks working for the DOS in Guangzhou did, or for spite. I said it because I don't feel the Chinese are the problem. They didn't take any of our jobs, our jobs were given to them by Americans. I am a loyal American, but I refuse to be a finger pointer when the problem was caused by Americans, and allowed to be blamed on others. If I'm gonna go down, then I intend to go down with my integrity intact. China didn't start this crap, America did, to it's own, by it's own. Two of the times I got shot down were by Chinese made, and supplied, radar controled and tri-angulated .51 cal rounds whose tracer rounds look like green bushel baskets of fire when they home in on you. I had no tricks in a slow moving helicopter to evade them...we saw them coming from three areas converging on us, we had a load of wounded onboard and we were helpless to get away...but I don't hate the Chinese...hell, I hate Robert McNamera and the lying generals who helped propagate that crap to keep going on so they could get more stars on the shoulders for their careers. Just like I hate the special interest groups and lobbyists and heads of American corporations who have lead America to the financial abyss that we are in. THEY are the enemy here. I can remember walking into the local Wal-Mart in this simple rural community I live in and everywhere from the ceiling were banners that proudly stated...MADE IN AMERICA WITH AMERICAN PRIDE It begs the question....did the Chinese come over here in the middle of the nighta nd take down those banners, and the jobs of the people making everything that used to be sold in Wal-Mart?....I don't think so. Did the Chinese invade the homes of and bend the arms up behind the backs of corporate Wal-Mart, hold their kids at gunpoint and force them to take American jobs and give them to Chinese sweat shop workers? ...I don't think so. America has done this to itself, yes, change needs to start at home. No need to take China or anyone else down because American corporations made decisions that screwed us all. If I were a Chinese factory owner and a Wal-Mart corporate head came in and told me, "Hey Zhang, I want you to make millions of cheap plastic do-dads for me so I can sell them in our stores." What do you think I would say, "Oh no, I can't do that, it would take jobs from your American workers." No, I would take the opportunity and run with it. But, who went to the Chinese and asked them to make all this stuff....Americans. Does China really have to bend down and take Uncle Sams Chinese made dildo up the butt, change their currency and screw themselves, and be the scapegoat for American corporations greed in screwing American workers out of their jobs? Apparently many folks think they should, I apologize if I must, but I jest ain't one of them. Tony, you are a good guy, we simply disagree on this one. I have seen the enemy, and he shore didn't have slant eyes and a red star on his ball cap. He was much more sneaky, cruel, and insidious than that. Note: The above was written by a slow tawkin', and some would say, slow thinkin' redneck hillbilly who saw Wal-Mart, etc., take down all their banners which proclaimed Made in America with American Pride, a long time ago. tsap seui Link to comment
shenzhen Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Could not agree more with TSAP. I only add that it was/is the greed of American business men and Unions officals that caused this problem. Link to comment
Zhou Zhou Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Stand your ground China...Don't back down. tsap seuiRonnie you like myself are entitled to our opinions. I am surprised that you would you would take a stand against the USA. I read in your posts that you went beyond the call of duty in Nam. You demonstrated bravery and call to duty. You believed then in Duty, Honor, Country. Today according to your posts you have been able to have very sizeable VA benefits and pensions for your heroic efforts. Yea you and your Special Other got got a raw deal in Guangzhou. If the US continues to loose jobs and wealth there will be no funds to help veterans like yourself and the American people. Looking out for each other begins at home. Gee Tsap, Hasn't the country that we love and defended gone overboard to protect it's workers? We ain't gotta do much anymore 'cause all the hard work has gone o'seas and what ain't goes to immigrunts. All that's left is the easy, clean work. Life is great!Tony, I wish the best for America. I haven't changed but the America I volunteered to defend has. I don't say what I did out of anger at the criminal acts of grocery clerks working for the DOS in Guangzhou did, or for spite. I said it because I don't feel the Chinese are the problem. They didn't take any of our jobs, our jobs were given to them by Americans. I am a loyal American, but I refuse to be a finger pointer when the problem was caused by Americans, and allowed to be blamed on others. If I'm gonna go down, then I intend to go down with my integrity intact. China didn't start this crap, America did, to it's own, by it's own. Two of the times I got shot down were by Chinese made, and supplied, radar controled and tri-angulated .51 cal rounds whose tracer rounds look like green bushel baskets of fire when they home in on you. I had no tricks in a slow moving helicopter to evade them...we saw them coming from three areas converging on us, we had a load of wounded onboard and we were helpless to get away...but I don't hate the Chinese...hell, I hate Robert McNamera and the lying generals who helped propagate that crap to keep going on so they could get more stars on the shoulders for their careers. Just like I hate the special interest groups and lobbyists and heads of American corporations who have lead America to the financial abyss that we are in. THEY are the enemy here. I can remember walking into the local Wal-Mart in this simple rural community I live in and everywhere from the ceiling were banners that proudly stated...MADE IN AMERICA WITH AMERICAN PRIDE It begs the question....did the Chinese come over here in the middle of the nighta nd take down those banners, and the jobs of the people making everything that used to be sold in Wal-Mart?....I don't think so. Did the Chinese invade the homes of and bend the arms up behind the backs of corporate Wal-Mart, hold their kids at gunpoint and force them to take American jobs and give them to Chinese sweat shop workers? ...I don't think so. America has done this to itself, yes, change needs to start at home. No need to take China or anyone else down because American corporations made decisions that screwed us all. If I were a Chinese factory owner and a Wal-Mart corporate head came in and told me, "Hey Zhang, I want you to make millions of cheap plastic do-dads for me so I can sell them in our stores." What do you think I would say, "Oh no, I can't do that, it would take jobs from your American workers." No, I would take the opportunity and run with it. But, who went to the Chinese and asked them to make all this stuff....Americans. Does China really have to bend down and take Uncle Sams Chinese made dildo up the butt, change their currency and screw themselves, and be the scapegoat for American corporations greed in screwing American workers out of their jobs? Apparently many folks think they should, I apologize if I must, but I jest ain't one of them. Tony, you are a good guy, we simply disagree on this one. I have seen the enemy, and he shore didn't have slant eyes and a red star on his ball cap. He was much more sneaky, cruel, and insidious than that. Note: The above was written by a slow tawkin', and some would say, slow thinkin' redneck hillbilly who saw Wal-Mart, etc., take down all their banners which proclaimed Made in America with American Pride, a long time ago. tsap seui Gee Tsap, Hasn't the country that we love and defended gone overboard to protect it's workers? We ain't gotta do much anymore 'cause all the hard work has gone o'seas and what ain't goes to immigrunts. All that's left is the easy, clean work. Life is great!Tony, I wish the best for America. I haven't changed but the America I volunteered to defend has. ZZ Link to comment
GDBILL Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 (edited) Stand your ground China...Don't back down. tsap seuiRonnie you like myself are entitled to our opinions. I am surprised that you would you would take a stand against the USA. I read in your posts that you went beyond the call of duty in Nam. You demonstrated bravery and call to duty. You believed then in Duty, Honor, Country. Today according to your posts you have been able to have very sizeable VA benefits and pensions for your heroic efforts. Yea you and your Special Other got got a raw deal in Guangzhou. If the US continues to loose jobs and wealth there will be no funds to help veterans like yourself and the American people. Looking out for each other begins at home. Narrow-minded approach. I guess using your logic it's ok to be intellectually dishonest, lie, steal ... maybe even murder ... if it's for your country.I'm going to be right up front with you. I do not like you or your caustic remarks about the US. I complimented Tsap Seui for his courage and dedication. Ijust wonderd why he would be giving China credenance. This is something that a person like you is not accustomed to. You have hostile contempt for our country and therefore you have contempt for my family and my way of life. Where I come from and you spoke of the US the way you have, you would need an athletic supporter, plenty of beef steak and your cologne would be of the scent of Ben Gay. Why don't you sign the necessary papers and become a person w/o a country and proclaim your self a true 5th columnist that you really are. You are a very angry insignificant zero. Your handle tells it all GDBILL thats where you will wind up at. You blasphemous loser. I have been shown some of your PMs to other members that you used nothing but idle threats and vulgarity towards them, When a person uses vulgarity the way you do toward people it shows your dedication to your low self esteem and poor self imaging. I do have to warn you some of these guys are real men and they do not like being threaten or called names by a zilch like you. I would recomend that you never go to a CFL get together. You may have the chance to meet someone from the 6 o'clock news.... All bad. Are you retarded or were you dropped on your head at birth? Your moronic drivel (i.e. comments) -- not to mention your blind, brain-dead tendency to believe the trailer-park-trash myth that everything "us" is good and everything "them" is bad -- shows just how many more light years a moron like you needs to move up to the Neanderthal step of the evolutionary ladder. Enjoy your new double-wide. Edited June 22, 2010 by GDBILL (see edit history) Link to comment
Randy W Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 (edited) Day two - June 22, 2010, 2:44 a.m. EDT ¡¤ Recommend ¡¤ Post:Yuan moves won't be a one-way street HONG KONG (MarketWatch) -- The Chinese yuan declined against the U.S. dollar Tuesday to reverse some of its strong gains from the previous day, highlighting that the China unit's moves won't be all in one direction following the loosening of its de-facto peg to the greenback. Such volatility may be essential to keep short-term speculators from placing one-way bets on the yuan's appreciation and could also curb overly large fund flows into China -- the kind which create asset bubbles -- say analysts. "Some people are even talking about a 5% to 10% appreciation [in the yuan] over a six-month period. That's just way too bullish. And this sentiment may lead to overreaction in the market," said Jun Ma, chief economist for the Greater China region at Deutsche Bank. "With volatility, some people with a short-term horizon might be afraid of losing money," said Ma.C_CNY 6.83, 0.00, -0.05% http://www.marketwatch.com/story/yuan-move...2?siteid=YAHOOB Edited June 22, 2010 by Randy W (see edit history) Link to comment
GDBILL Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Day two - June 22, 2010, 2:44 a.m. EDT ¡¤ Recommend ¡¤ Post:Yuan moves won't be a one-way street HONG KONG (MarketWatch) -- The Chinese yuan declined against the U.S. dollar Tuesday to reverse some of its strong gains from the previous day, highlighting that the China unit's moves won't be all in one direction following the loosening of its de-facto peg to the greenback. Such volatility may be essential to keep short-term speculators from placing one-way bets on the yuan's appreciation and could also curb overly large fund flows into China -- the kind which create asset bubbles -- say analysts. "Some people are even talking about a 5% to 10% appreciation [in the yuan] over a six-month period. That's just way too bullish. And this sentiment may lead to overreaction in the market," said Jun Ma, chief economist for the Greater China region at Deutsche Bank. "With volatility, some people with a short-term horizon might be afraid of losing money," said Ma.C_CNY 6.83, 0.00, -0.05% http://www.marketwatch.com/story/yuan-move...2?siteid=YAHOOB I think this possibility was mentioned in a few articles that appeared in China Daily. Do you think they did this (the gain followed by sudden loss) on purpose just to discourage an inflow of hot money? Link to comment
shenzhen Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Day two - June 22, 2010, 2:44 a.m. EDT ¡¤ Recommend ¡¤ Post:Yuan moves won't be a one-way street HONG KONG (MarketWatch) -- The Chinese yuan declined against the U.S. dollar Tuesday to reverse some of its strong gains from the previous day, highlighting that the China unit's moves won't be all in one direction following the loosening of its de-facto peg to the greenback. Such volatility may be essential to keep short-term speculators from placing one-way bets on the yuan's appreciation and could also curb overly large fund flows into China -- the kind which create asset bubbles -- say analysts. "Some people are even talking about a 5% to 10% appreciation [in the yuan] over a six-month period. That's just way too bullish. And this sentiment may lead to overreaction in the market," said Jun Ma, chief economist for the Greater China region at Deutsche Bank. "With volatility, some people with a short-term horizon might be afraid of losing money," said Ma.C_CNY 6.83, 0.00, -0.05% http://www.marketwatch.com/story/yuan-move...2?siteid=YAHOOBDamn it ... you mean all that money I just moved and parked in China in order to take advantage of the CFL "Rise in Yuan" monthly predictions might backfire on me ??? Link to comment
chilton747 Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Just a dumb question from a dumb hillbilly......... Jes who is it that gets the final say on what the CNY is worth? Link to comment
GDBILL Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Just a dumb question from a dumb hillbilly......... Jes who is it that gets the final say on what the CNY is worth? Cuzzin Ord, both you and I would like to know. Link to comment
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