knloregon Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 ...based on the number of times I've been propositioned on the street, in dozens of different cities across China (and NOT by the same woman). that plus the abundant other opportunities, brothels in hotels for instance. opportunities for a: "shave and a hair cut"---plus a 'happy ending' That plus the whole 'slum-dog-millionaire' syndrome---unwanted girls finding their ways into prostitution to support their very existence... Bill, of course, knows all this----- he's just being entertaining.... Link to comment
shenzhen Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 "...Over 6 million Chinese women are engaged in the sex trade." Seems like an extremely low number.. On what do you base this observation on?Prehaps it was based on the comment in the article itself: The newspaper said six million Chinese women were believed involved in the sex trade, but other independent estimates have put the figure twice as high. Link to comment
chilton747 Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 The newspaper said six million Chinese women were believed involved in the sex trade, but other independent estimates have put the figure twice as high. So I guess that no one really knows. Link to comment
GDBILL Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 (edited) ...based on the number of times I've been propositioned on the street, in dozens of different cities across China (and NOT by the same woman). that plus the abundant other opportunities, brothels in hotels for instance. opportunities for a: "shave and a hair cut"---plus a 'happy ending' That plus the whole 'slum-dog-millionaire' syndrome---unwanted girls finding their ways into prostitution to support their very existence... Bill, of course, knows all this----- he's just being entertaining.... No, I am being entertained ... ... by dimwhitted staticians that equate what in total amounts to probably a grand total of 100 days in China and being propositioned at most 6 times per day with an observation that there must, as a result, be much more than 6 million prostitutes in China. You've been watching too many soap operas. P.S. Just to clarify any doubt, that was a barb. Feel free to enter whiney little bitch mode now. Edited June 14, 2010 by GDBILL (see edit history) Link to comment
GDBILL Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 The newspaper said six million Chinese women were believed involved in the sex trade, but other independent estimates have put the figure twice as high. So I guess that no one really knows. That, my dear, Cuzin Ord, is probably one of the only intelligent observations on this whole thread. Link to comment
GDBILL Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 "...Over 6 million Chinese women are engaged in the sex trade." Seems like an extremely low number.. On what do you base this observation on?Prehaps it was based on the comment in the article itself: The newspaper said six million Chinese women were believed involved in the sex trade, but other independent estimates have put the figure twice as high. I'd like to see these other independent estimates. Smells a little like those WMDs in Iraq. Link to comment
shenzhen Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 "...Over 6 million Chinese women are engaged in the sex trade." Seems like an extremely low number.. On what do you base this observation on?Prehaps it was based on the comment in the article itself: The newspaper said six million Chinese women were believed involved in the sex trade, but other independent estimates have put the figure twice as high. I'd like to see these other independent estimates. Smells a little like those WMDs in Iraq.I don't know the exact number but there seem to be a hell of a lot of them .... this past weekend they even called my hotel room at 10pm and asked if I wanted a "massageeee" WITH my wife in the room. They never found any WMD but I don't think anyone has ever been in China and never seen with their eyes a prosititute unless they are naive or blind. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2010-...ent_9909738.htmIt is not certain how many prostitutes are there in the country - the number ranges from 3-4 million to more than 10 million. http://factsanddetails.com/china.php?itemi...amp;subcatid=76The sex industry is growing rapidly. Even small cities have their own entertainment districts. Estimates of the numbers of prostitutes in China range from 3 million according to officials estimates by the government to 10 million by the U.S. State Department to 20 million by one Chinese economist. By one count there around 1 million full-time prostitutes in China and perhaps 8 to 10 million more that sometimes accept money and gifts for sex. One marker of the booming sex industry in Shenzhen¡ªboth in terms of prostitutes and misstresses¡ªis the high number of children born out-of-wedlock. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_...public_of_China http://news.asianstudies.dk/2009/07/prostitution-in-china/The number of prostitutes in China was estimated to be 4 million in an official Chinese report from 1997. A less conservative, but perhaps more realistic number of prostitutes in China is estimated to be roughly 20 million. http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/prostitution-in-china.htmSome researchers have conservatively estimated that there are as many as 10 million active prostitutes in China at any given time who contribute as much as five percent to the country¡¯s annual GDP as most of the earned income, although not taxed, goes back into the economy through consumption. (Dougherty, 2006). http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90776/90882/6984685.htmlThere are between 4 million and 10 million female sex workers on the Chinesemainland catering regularly to more than 6 percent of the male population aged 20 to 64, according to a paper published in 2009 by Wan Shaoping, a professor at the Sichuan Institute of Dermatology and STD Prevention in Chengdu, and Professor Joseph T.F. Lau, director of the Chinese University of Hong Kong's center for epidemiology and biostatistics. Link to comment
GDBILL Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 "...Over 6 million Chinese women are engaged in the sex trade." Seems like an extremely low number.. On what do you base this observation on?Prehaps it was based on the comment in the article itself: The newspaper said six million Chinese women were believed involved in the sex trade, but other independent estimates have put the figure twice as high. I'd like to see these other independent estimates. Smells a little like those WMDs in Iraq.I don't know the exact number but there seem to be a hell of a lot of them .... this past weekend they even called my hotel room at 10pm and asked if I wanted a "massageeee" WITH my wife in the room. They never found any WMD but I don't think anyone has ever been in China and never seen with their eyes a prosititute unless they are naive or blind. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2010-...ent_9909738.htmIt is not certain how many prostitutes are there in the country - the number ranges from 3-4 million to more than 10 million. http://factsanddetails.com/china.php?itemi...amp;subcatid=76The sex industry is growing rapidly. Even small cities have their own entertainment districts. Estimates of the numbers of prostitutes in China range from 3 million according to officials estimates by the government to 10 million by the U.S. State Department to 20 million by one Chinese economist. By one count there around 1 million full-time prostitutes in China and perhaps 8 to 10 million more that sometimes accept money and gifts for sex. One marker of the booming sex industry in Shenzhen¡ªboth in terms of prostitutes and misstresses¡ªis the high number of children born out-of-wedlock. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_...public_of_China http://news.asianstudies.dk/2009/07/prostitution-in-china/The number of prostitutes in China was estimated to be 4 million in an official Chinese report from 1997. A less conservative, but perhaps more realistic number of prostitutes in China is estimated to be roughly 20 million. http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/prostitution-in-china.htmSome researchers have conservatively estimated that there are as many as 10 million active prostitutes in China at any given time who contribute as much as five percent to the country¡¯s annual GDP as most of the earned income, although not taxed, goes back into the economy through consumption. (Dougherty, 2006). http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90776/90882/6984685.htmlThere are between 4 million and 10 million female sex workers on the Chinesemainland catering regularly to more than 6 percent of the male population aged 20 to 64, according to a paper published in 2009 by Wan Shaoping, a professor at the Sichuan Institute of Dermatology and STD Prevention in Chengdu, and Professor Joseph T.F. Lau, director of the Chinese University of Hong Kong's center for epidemiology and biostatistics. I don't think there is anybody who doubts that there are prostitutes. I'd just like to see some credible statistics on how many other than dozens of estimates with ranges anywhere from 1 million to 20 million+. Then there is the definition of "prostitution" itself. If, as suggested, it includes those "that sometimes accept money and gifts for sex," then I'm afraid over 1/2 the female population in the US is a whore. Link to comment
shenzhen Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Then there is the definition of "prostitution" itself. If, as suggested, it includes those "that sometimes accept money and gifts for sex," then I'm afraid over 1/2 the female population in the US is a whore. Only half? I don't think you will find "hard core" estimates. But if the govt estimated 4MM in 1997 via an offical report then I would assume 6MM may be a little low. Link to comment
knloregon Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 "....I don't know the exact number but there seem to be a hell of a lot of them .... this past weekend they even called my hotel room at 10pm and asked if I wanted a "massageeee" WITH my wife in the room. ..." -------then what did she say Alan? ....I mean your Wife? "....Some researchers have conservatively estimated that there are as many as 10 million active prostitutes in China at any given time who contribute as much as five percent to the country¡¯s annual GDP as most of the earned income, although not taxed, goes back into the economy through consumption. (Dougherty, 2006)." ----Its big money alright, but can't agree its not taxed. Local brothels don't operate without tacit approval of local officials... and ---just a guess the 'juice' might be considerable. Link to comment
shenzhen Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 "....I don't know the exact number but there seem to be a hell of a lot of them .... this past weekend they even called my hotel room at 10pm and asked if I wanted a "massageeee" WITH my wife in the room. ..." -------then what did she say Alan? ....I mean your Wife? "....Some researchers have conservatively estimated that there are as many as 10 million active prostitutes in China at any given time who contribute as much as five percent to the country¡¯s annual GDP as most of the earned income, although not taxed, goes back into the economy through consumption. (Dougherty, 2006)." ----Its big money alright, but can't agree its not taxed. Local brothels don't operate without tacit approval of local officials... and ---just a guess the 'juice' might be considerable.She grabbed the phone out of my hand and told her something in Chinese that I could loosely translate as "I am his wife and you go to H*&L". Then she immediately hung up and called the front desk to complain. Link to comment
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