shenzhen Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Very good point Griz. The fact is, we were suddenly and deliberately attacked on December 7, 1941, by an enemy who wanted to kill us. The very same scenario exists today. Inasmuch as the internment camps are viewed as a bad choice, it wasn't a racist one. .If it wasn't racist then why weren't Germans and Italians put in internment camps too? Germans and Italians were interned during WWII. This is a fact that is rarely spoken about because it doesn't fit the standard "bigoted pre-Civil rights era America" narrative that we're taught in school. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_American_internmenthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American_internment Furthermore, if this is about racism we wouldn't have fought the Germans and Italians to begin with now would we?We were taught about in our public schools in NC. We were also taught that there was one big difference between what happened to the Japanese and what happened to the Germans/Italians. If you were a naturalized or US born citizen of German/Italian background then you were not usually affected by the internment or deportation. The internment for the Japanese was for everyone of Japanese background regardless of their citizenship status. Link to comment
garfield529 Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Just a few quotes from the wiki entries mentioned earlier in the threads. It becomes obvious that the Japanese were disproportionately affected compared to the much larger Italian and German populace. "Attorney General Francis M. Biddle assured enemy aliens that they would not be discriminated against if they were loyal. He cited Department of Justice figures: Of the 1,100,000 (sic) enemy aliens in the United States, 92,000 were Japanese, 315,000 were German, and 695,000 were Italian. In all, 2,972 had been arrested and held, mostly Japanese and Germans. Only 231 Italians had been arrested.[11]" "Somewhere between 110,000 and 120,000 people of Japanese ancestry were subject to this mass exclusion program, of whom approximately two-thirds were U.S. citizens" "A total of 11,507 people of German ancestry were interned during the war, accounting for 36% of the total internments under the Justice Department's Enemy Alien Control Program." "In 1988, Congress passed and President Ronald Reagan signed legislation which apologized for the internment on behalf of the U.S. government. The legislation stated that government actions were based on "race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership"." "Those that were as little as 1/16th Japanese could be placed in internment camps.[23] There is evidence supporting the argument that the measures were racially motivated, rather than a military necessity. For example, orphaned infants with "one drop of Japanese blood" (as explained in a letter by one official) were included in the program." ~~it was racial Every time a Predator drone fires on a group of "insurgents" and kills some teenage boy's father, we create another "insurgent." How can we solve this problem? Every time investors collectively drive companies to keep costs low and profits high, we create a demand for low-wage labor that will be filled by illegal immigrants. How can we solve this problem? Just curious for thoughts... Link to comment
griz326 Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Every time a Predator drone fires on a group of "insurgents" and kills some teenage boy's father, we create another "insurgent." How can we solve this problem? Make certain we kill the kid too! If your premise is correct, I support the proposed solution. Every time investors collectively drive companies to keep costs low and profits high, we create a demand for low-wage labor that will be filled by illegal immigrants. How can we solve this problem? Your premise is simply not true: >>>that will be filled by illegal immigrants In my experience, the more frequent result of any drive to keep costs low is shipping jobs to India and China...not illegal immigration. Link to comment
Stepbrow Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 How was the bomber able to get his citizenship after 6 months? Looking at the USCIS website. It says that he would have to have had a green card for 3 years, not an H1B or a student visa. He had to be living in marital union for 3 years prior to filing, etc. http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...000b92ca60aRCRD So something isn't right. Was it an error by the author? I think that this young guy, and the others that we have read about are being radicalized by jihadist religious leaders. They should be arrested, and tried as co-defendants. I also think that young men like this one should be required to take a class on brainwashing before they get their green card. Link to comment
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