What paperwork do I need before getting married in China

[homersimpsons]

Do anyone know if there is some kind of rule to give money to a marriage broker in Southern China. My cousin who is the marriage broker, now wants something like 30-40K RMB from my future mother-in-law. Most likely I will have to pay it because she doesn't have that kind of money. My cousin claims since she indroduce the girl to me, now want the money when we get marry.

 

Did you ask your cousin to find this girl for you? That's a hell of a cousin asking for money if you didn't ask him to find a girl for you!

 

Usually when you ask the other family(your girlfriend/wife) for money, it involves marriage scam.

 

I'm chinese myself and married a woman in China and I was introduced to her by my cousin and money was never asked.

 

Although I have been offered over $50k on many occassion to be part of a marriage for visa scam.

[Randy W]

I quickly read some of the posts. To answer some of the questions, it is our first time getting married for me and for my girlfriend. I am an ABC, meaning American Born Chinese. My first language is English but I speak a little Cantonese. The main thing I see wrong with our relationship is I am 20 years older than her. I 'm over 45 now. This should be a red flag to anyone.

 

She speaks Cantonese and some English. She laughs at may Chinese all the time. We met thru a cousin who now wants about 40-30K RMB from her mother. Her mother doesn't have that kind of money. Most likely I have to pay it off. We are wary the cousin might cause some trouble for us if we do not pay her anything. I am willing to pay her something but NOT 40-30K.

 

Most of our information are just rumors and stories from other people who have applied in GZ.

 

Your girlfriend needs to sort out who agreed to what and why, and what needs to be paid, if anything. If the cousin and your girlfriend agreed that she would find a rich American that can afford to pay that kind of a finder's fee, well, that's something you need to deal with. Rather than paying off the cousin, you might keep your plans VERY secret.

 

And no, she is NOT a marriage broker in the IMBRA sense.

[Guest Rob & Jin]

I quickly read some of the posts. To answer some of the questions, it is our first time getting married for me and for my girlfriend. I am an ABC, meaning American Born Chinese. My first language is English but I speak a little Cantonese. The main thing I see wrong with our relationship is I am 20 years older than her. I 'm over 45 now. This should be a red flag to anyone.

 

She speaks Cantonese and some English. She laughs at may Chinese all the time. We met thru a cousin who now wants about 40-30K RMB from her mother. Her mother doesn't have that kind of money. Most likely I have to pay it off. We are wary the cousin might cause some trouble for us if we do not pay her anything. I am willing to pay her something but NOT 40-30K.

 

Most of our information are just rumors and stories from other people who have applied in GZ.

 

Your girlfriend needs to sort out who agreed to what and why, and what needs to be paid, if anything. If the cousin and your girlfriend agreed that she would find a rich American that can afford to pay that kind of a finder's fee, well, that's something you need to deal with. Rather than paying off the cousin, you might keep your plans VERY secret.

 

And no, she is NOT a marriage broker in the IMBRA sense.

 

 

 

 

 

And no, she is NOT a marriage broker in the IMBRA sense.

 

 

you know this how ?

 

Personally i'm a little concerned by this whole thread= money for wife

[Randy W]

 

you know this how ?

 

Personally i'm a little concerned by this whole thread= money for wife

 

Because - unless you know for certain that your dating service IS an IMB, I always advise to answer 'No' to that question.

 

What is her primary business? I doubt that it's matchmaking.

 

The USCIS/DOS has no clue what her primary business is. They have no jurisdiction over her 'business'. And GUZ could hardly care less - their reaction, as far as we know, has always been along the lines of 'Gee, that's nice', regardless of whether your answer is 'Yes' or 'No' to the IMBRA question.

 

They have no list - they can't tell you which entities are and which are not marriage brokers.

 

To answer 'Yes' is a potential can of worms - which, so far, has not materialized.

[Guest Rob & Jin]

 

you know this how ?

 

Personally i'm a little concerned by this whole thread= money for wife

 

Because - unless you know for certain that your dating service IS an IMB, I always advise to answer 'No' to that question.

 

What is her primary business? I doubt that it's matchmaking.

 

The USCIS/DOS has no clue what her primary business is. They have no jurisdiction over her 'business'. And GUZ could hardly care less - their reaction, as far as we know, has always been along the lines of 'Gee, that's nice', regardless of whether your answer is 'Yes' or 'No' to the IMBRA question.

 

They have no list - they can't tell you which entities are and which are not marriage brokers.

 

To answer 'Yes' is a potential can of worms - which, so far, has not materialized.

 

 

Ok, as long as he doesnt say "yes" on I-129f

 

But a cousin asking for money as he "found this girl" gives me the shivers

[Randy W]

 

Ok, as long as he doesnt say "yes" on I-129f

 

But a cousin asking for money as he "found this girl" gives me the shivers

 

I agree, Rob. Could be extortion, may have been an honest agreement to snare a rich American. Either way, I don't think it's a legitimate fee.

[William Lee]

I don't mind giving my distance cousin some money but not something like 30-40K RMB. That's about 4-5,000 USD. 1K USD is more reasonable for me. Actually my mother in law is suppose to pay it and not me but she doesn't have that kind of money around. Mostlikely, the amount is a wish amount and she will settle for less.

 

Yes, I too been offer over 50K USD for a fake marriage a few times.

 

Since my Chinese is very limited, I was hoping somebody knows something about Southern China can help me, specifically Taishan/Kaiping area. It might be true and a custom in Southern China. On the other hand, I have asked a few of my Chinese friends, 3-4, and they said they never heard of such a thing. So far we have been keeping our marriage plans a secret because of my cousin.

Edited March 11, 2008 by William Lee (see edit history)

[homersimpsons]

I don't mind giving my cousin some money but not something like 30-40RMB. That's about 4-5,000 USD. 1K USD is more reasonable.

 

Yes, I too been offer over 50K USD for a fake marriage a few times.

 

Since my Chinese is very limited, I was hoping somebody knows something about Southern China can help me, specifically Taishan/Kaiping area. It might be true and a custom in Southern China. On the other hand, I have asked a few of my Chinese friends, 3-4, and they said they never heard of such a thing.

 

Don't pay is my advice. 30-40k RMB is crazy.

 

I had many cousins offered to find me girls in China and money is never asked. I give them a couple of hundred of bucks for the time they spend driving me around, and they are embarrassed to take that money.

 

Would your cousins in the USA ask for money if they found a girl for you in the USA? Hell no.

[warpedbored]

Actually it isn't all that uncommon for a matchmaker to expect money for a successful introduction. The amount sounds rather high though. If this cousin is familiar with the consulate it could cause you problems if you refuse to pay. Often in such situations a matchmaker will threaten to send the consulate information saying the relationship is bogus. Sadly the consulate takes these claims seriously. If you are being extorted by someone like this it may be in your best interests to let the consulate know before hand. This is what the consulate replied to a question about TPC in GZ speaks.

3. If any petitioner or beneficiary feels they are being threatened or blackmailed by any outside party, they should immediately contact the Consulate with this concern. We will then take the appropriate actions to resolve the issue.

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...;hl=third+party

 

I suggest that you read a lot here, particularly the FAQ. Here is a link to some other links that will help you navigate CFL and the visa process.

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...st&p=193914

 

I also suggest your sweetheart join 001, our sister site for ladies in China. There is some misinformation there just like anywhere but over all it can help.

http://usa.bbs.net/bbs/01/index.html

 

Last of all the paperwork is not that complicated. Unless you have extenuating circumstances a lawyer is not needed nor will a lawyer increase your chances of success.

 

Good luck

Carl

[Guest Tony n Terrific]

I quickly read some of the posts. To answer some of the questions, it is our first time getting married for me and for my girlfriend. I am an ABC, meaning American Born Chinese. My first language is English but I speak a little Cantonese. The main thing I see wrong with our relationship is I am 20 years older than her. I 'm over 45 now. This should be a red flag to anyone.

 

She speaks Cantonese and some English. She laughs at may Chinese all the time. We met thru a cousin who now wants about 40-30K RMB from her mother. Her mother doesn't have that kind of money. Most likely I have to pay it off. We are wary the cousin might cause some trouble for us if we do not pay her anything. I am willing to pay her something but NOT 40-30K.

 

Most of our information are just rumors and stories from other people who have applied in GZ.

 

Your girlfriend needs to sort out who agreed to what and why, and what needs to be paid, if anything. If the cousin and your girlfriend agreed that she would find a rich American that can afford to pay that kind of a finder's fee, well, that's something you need to deal with. Rather than paying off the cousin, you might keep your plans VERY secret.

 

And no, she is NOT a marriage broker in the IMBRA sense.

 

 

 

 

 

And no, she is NOT a marriage broker in the IMBRA sense.

 

 

you know this how ?

 

Personally i'm a little concerned by this whole thread= money for wife

Yeppers. It would like being in a K-mart and hear over the PA. Attention K-mart single men shoppers here in our home and garden department we have wives for sale. 1 year same as cash option.

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[TootTaLu]

Welcome to CFL ...

 

I'm sure some of our K3 experts will give a substantive answer, but I encourage you to explore this site and Visajourney before you make your final decision.

 

There are reasons to go K1 and reasons to go K3 but "too many problems and very complicated" is not among them.

I would have told him to buy a visa and ticket to Laos and save a lot of hassel in the long run.

My friend applied for Fiance Visa for his Laos girlfriend,and she was sitting in his house in America 7 months later.

[david_dawei]

Do anyone know if there is some kind of rule to give money to a marriage broker in Southern China. My cousin who is the marriage broker, now wants something like 30-40K RMB from my future mother-in-law. Most likely I will have to pay it because she doesn't have that kind of money. My cousin claims since she indroduce the girl to me, now want the money when we get marry.

tell him.... if he wants to marry her, go ahead... otherwise, bugger off!