danielbro Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 When the petitioner and beneficiary are married the child is over 18 but not yet 21. The petitioner can not file I-130 for the child, as the child was over 18 when the marriage took place. The petitioner files I-130 and I129F for the beneficiary. The child is listed on the I-129F and can come to U.S. with the beneficiary after visa approval.What is the process for Adjustment of Status for the child without the I-130 being filed by the petitioner?Thank you for your time. Link to comment
david_dawei Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Maybe I'm missing something.. but if the child is over 18 when you got married, your out of luck on both the CR2 or K4 (derivative status from K3). I think another filing will have to occur once the mother is here as an LPR ?? Maybe Ty, Don, or Carl, someone can confirm or comment? Link to comment
Randy W Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Maybe I'm missing something.. but if the child is over 18 when you got married, your out of luck on both the CR2 or K4 (derivative status from K3). I think another filing will have to occur once the mother is here as an LPR ?? Maybe Ty, Don, or Carl, someone can confirm or comment? Yes - we did - the K4 is good to age 21 since no I-130 is filed - it is derivative from the K-3. his original post but he is wanting feedback from USCONGUZ, not realizing it needs to come from the USCIS. Link to comment
david_dawei Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Maybe I'm missing something.. but if the child is over 18 when you got married, your out of luck on both the CR2 or K4 (derivative status from K3). I think another filing will have to occur once the mother is here as an LPR ?? Maybe Ty, Don, or Carl, someone can confirm or comment? Yes - we did - the K4 is good to age 21 since no I-130 is filed - it is derivative from the K-3. his original post but he is wanting feedback from USCONGUZ, not realizing it needs to come from the USCIS.Randy, you did K1/K2... which is good till 21. K4 (I thought) is only defined as a 'child' if the marriage too place prior to 18 years old... here's the wording I have in the FAQ: In order for a stepchild to be able to immigrate as a ¡°child,¡± the marriage creating the stepchild/stepparent relationship must have happened before the stepchild was 18 years of age. Link to comment
Randy W Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 (edited) Maybe I'm missing something.. but if the child is over 18 when you got married, your out of luck on both the CR2 or K4 (derivative status from K3). I think another filing will have to occur once the mother is here as an LPR ?? Maybe Ty, Don, or Carl, someone can confirm or comment? Yes - we did - the K4 is good to age 21 since no I-130 is filed - it is derivative from the K-3. his original post but he is wanting feedback from USCONGUZ, not realizing it needs to come from the USCIS.Randy, you did K1/K2... which is good till 21. K4 (I thought) is only defined as a 'child' if the marriage too place prior to 18 years old... here's the wording I have in the FAQ: In order for a stepchild to be able to immigrate as a ¡°child,¡± the marriage creating the stepchild/stepparent relationship must have happened before the stepchild was 18 years of age. Yes - he is NOT a step-child (or child for immigration purposes), but he IS a child (under 21) of his parent, and so entitled to the derivative K-4 status. This is what danielbro and USCONGUZ seem to both be saying. File the I-130 for the mother (only), then file I-129F for K-3. When the mother gets her K-3, the children are entitled to a derivative K-4 up to age 21. Adjusting status is another issue. The over-18 will not adjust status (no I-130 can be filed) and will go out of status when the mother adjusts. Ty is suggesting that the AOS'd mother can then file I-130 and I-485 simultaneously for her son. I'm glad you're back! Edited May 29, 2007 by Randy W (see edit history) Link to comment
david_dawei Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 ok.. I'm back but had to read that other thread and lookup definitions again... I know there are two threads going (which could be merged).. but my opinion is: Where's frank! and my second thought is.. as said in the other thread, a K4 over 18 at time of parent/USC marriage is still available, but is a dead-end visa... the USC cannot file the I-130; the alien parent can once they are LPR. So, get the child here under a K4 (two year validity) and the mother files AOS. Being the OP probably has San Bernadino as the local office, which is a fast office (3-5 months?), the mother could turn around fairly soon and file the I-130/I-485 as Ty said... ok.. we all agree Link to comment
danielbro Posted May 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 ok.. I'm back but had to read that other thread and lookup definitions again... I know there are two threads going (which could be merged).. but my opinion is: Where's frank! and my second thought is.. as said in the other thread, a K4 over 18 at time of parent/USC marriage is still available, but is a dead-end visa... the USC cannot file the I-130; the alien parent can once they are LPR. So, get the child here under a K4 (two year validity) and the mother files AOS. Being the OP probably has San Bernadino as the local office, which is a fast office (3-5 months?), the mother could turn around fairly soon and file the I-130/I-485 as Ty said... ok.. we all agree Thank you for all your information, it's a big help. You are right about me being clost to the San Bernardino USCIS office. I looked online at the local office but they do not process the I-485. I will have to send it to Chicago. Now I know what I need to do once mother and child are here. Thanks again for your help. Link to comment
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