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Sorry for the lateness but here's my timeline which I finally gathered up. April 2006 - Met fiance during a trip to ancestor's home. 1/18/2007 - USCIS notice of I-129F & application fees received. 6/27/2007 - Notice of decision - requires my missing G-325A plus $385. (my bad I mistaken left it out in the first place). 7/17/2007 - USCIS notice of G-325A and payment received. 7/23/2007 - I-129F approval and notice of forwarding to NVC. 8/20/2007 - NVC approval and stated it will be forward to Guangzhou. 9/??/2007 - Fiance receives K-1 package from GZ. 10/??/2007 - Fiance returned all required documents. Late December 2007 - Fiance received interview date and reference #. 1/9/2008 - Fiance accused of previouly applied in the interview opening sentence and given the white slip after a few short questions. I would wonder how GZ consulate gave her a interview date if they stated she had applied in June 2007? How they manage their database is a big question to me. At this moment we decided not to have attorney look at the K-1 denial case due to lack of finiancial funds. I decided to start over by getting married and go K-3. It will take longer but at best it gives us time to understand the whole process. Maybe my bad I rushed in too soon, too much confidence after reading others success stories. Again I thank you all for the suggestions and help, I still welcome your suggestions and positive comments. best wishes to you and yours - all CFL members.

Question about getting a immigration attorney, should I or she get one in GZ area while her documents are still there? Now it's barely a week since the denial. Does GZ attorneys has better access since they are closer and familar with the system. Attorneys in US are farther away and may take longer time to communicate. As mentioned, I layed out 2 plans. One to resolve the denial note soon while it is still stuck in GZ. If that fails, then get married. Unfortunately it's a test of patience for me. It's not about letting the consulate staff beating us around, some of us knows that that's nothing can be done while waiting and hoping for a successful visa process. The choice is not ours at this moment, except to seek attorney help or one is lucky enough to be associated with higher goverment officer. warm regards, plau. Yes, get a lawyer in GZ immediately. Your fiancee should go to GZ and visit the four Immigration lawyers on the website as cited above plus the gentleman identified by Carl. She will have to judge who really seems like they can get the job done. A competent GZ immigration lawyer should be able to get the visa application held at the consulate, find out specifically why they are currently recommending denial (don't assume anything here), and determine what further evidence will cause GZ to reassess and grant the visa. Good luck! Please let us know what happens. Hi All, I am back again at your request on updating my resolution. My fiancee did discuss the situation with your most recommended attorney in GZ. According to the attorney, one of the possible denial reason is our pictures taken together were insufficent - they want more photos of us taken in public areas like resorts and known landmarks. Seems that photos of us in a little village and houses did not cut it. There are doubts about me appearing much younger in the photos than my written age in the application statements. Strange but true. The attorney ask for non-refundable 4K RMB deposit to start the case (resolving K-1 denial), about 25K when it is resolved in about 1-3 months. That roughly will cut me around US$4K for attorney fees alone. Also mentioned that K-3 visa will be less expensive but takes longer time should I want to go that way, meaning cancelling my K1 application. Attorneys and lawyers will put more efforts to forward your case for success, while applying direct are bound to fail for the majority of us, the way I see it. US immigation/visa dept handles tons of various applications and short staffed, so any one us can be just sidelined or even ignored. Attorneys and any related busineses closely assocciated with the consulate have better chance of putting your foot in their acceptable zone. So is the truth we will understand. This are the latest info to date for me to share which I hope future visa applicants will take note, whichever way is helpful for CFL members. More will be posted later. Take care, plau. Pardon this post if my question has been already answered and I missed it. In your OP, you mentioned that one of the first charges the VO made was that the application was made in July, and you said you applied in Jan 07. Was there any further discussion with the attorney about the disparity in the dates? I am a little confused about that issue. I am just as confused and somewhat lost as you but I look forward to revolve it. My OP about the VO statements is what I heard repeatly from my fiancee. My Jan 07 submission for K1 is accurate. So far these are the info I gathered at this moment, since I last phoned her on whatever time available between us. I remember her attorney said the consulate use many opening methods in their visa interviews, though no proper reason given why. I do know she is honest and never applied before, she even doubt about applying for some else. I felt it is not the time to challenge their so accused statements as I now see a positive chance to reapply w/o further difficulties or have attorney directions to handle accordingly. Will have good updates as this case goes on, this is just the beginging stage of resolving it. I will phone the GZ attorney later for more clarification. Such are the unexpectations for us few that petition for alien spouse/fiancee/relatives but it's the path we choose. still open for more suggestions.

Question about getting a immigration attorney, should I or she get one in GZ area while her documents are still there? Now it's barely a week since the denial. Does GZ attorneys has better access since they are closer and familar with the system. Attorneys in US are farther away and may take longer time to communicate. As mentioned, I layed out 2 plans. One to resolve the denial note soon while it is still stuck in GZ. If that fails, then get married. Unfortunately it's a test of patience for me. It's not about letting the consulate staff beating us around, some of us knows that that's nothing can be done while waiting and hoping for a successful visa process. The choice is not ours at this moment, except to seek attorney help or one is lucky enough to be associated with higher goverment officer. warm regards, plau. Yes, get a lawyer in GZ immediately. Your fiancee should go to GZ and visit the four Immigration lawyers on the website as cited above plus the gentleman identified by Carl. She will have to judge who really seems like they can get the job done. A competent GZ immigration lawyer should be able to get the visa application held at the consulate, find out specifically why they are currently recommending denial (don't assume anything here), and determine what further evidence will cause GZ to reassess and grant the visa. Good luck! Please let us know what happens. Hi All, I am back again at your request on updating my resolution. My fiancee did discuss the situation with your most recommended attorney in GZ. According to the attorney, one of the possible denial reason is our pictures taken together were insufficent - they want more photos of us taken in public areas like resorts and known landmarks. Seems that photos of us in a little village and houses did not cut it. There are doubts about me appearing much younger in the photos than my written age in the application statements. Strange but true. The attorney ask for non-refundable 4K RMB deposit to start the case (resolving K-1 denial), about 25K when it is resolved in about 1-3 months. That roughly will cut me around US$4K for attorney fees alone. Also mentioned that K-3 visa will be less expensive but takes longer time should I want to go that way, meaning cancelling my K1 application. Attorneys and lawyers will put more efforts to forward your case for success, while applying direct are bound to fail for the majority of us, the way I see it. US immigation/visa dept handles tons of various applications and short staffed, so any one us can be just sidelined or even ignored. Attorneys and any related busineses closely assocciated with the consulate have better chance of putting your foot in their acceptable zone. So is the truth we will understand. This are the latest info to date for me to share which I hope future visa applicants will take note, whichever way is helpful for CFL members. More will be posted later. Take care, plau.

Question about getting a immigration attorney, should I or she get one in GZ area while her documents are still there? Now it's barely a week since the denial. Does GZ attorneys has better access since they are closer and familar with the system. Attorneys in US are farther away and may take longer time to communicate. As mentioned, I layed out 2 plans. One to resolve the denial note soon while it is still stuck in GZ. If that fails, then get married. Unfortunately it's a test of patience for me. It's not about letting the consulate staff beating us around, some of us knows that that's nothing can be done while waiting and hoping for a successful visa process. The choice is not ours at this moment, except to seek attorney help or one is lucky enough to be associated with higher goverment officer. warm regards, plau.

I am thankful to all of you who took the time to read and responded to my small case. Also thankful for all the directions. There are many angles we look at it and so created different solutions I need to experience as time goes on. As my desires has gone too deep not to sideline it despite difficulties along the way. Some of your comments are very much truth regarding the unexpected treatments from the consulate staff. But I believe there are always some goodness in them. As reported, there are thousands of various visa applicants every month and likely 100 to 200 plus interviews any given day at each location, only a handful will be approved and big smiles on the way out. My intention is have my fiancee look up your referred attorney in GZ or nearest to her hometown. If that turn not too good, I will just get my butt over there for the marriage thing and apply for a spouse visa, with a good attorney of course. A longer process plus more expenses so it will be for one's real commitment. Unfortunately for my part, funds are limited but a little more hard work and proper preparing will help. sincerely, plau.

Yes indeed I will welcome all your helpful advise and will contact Chilton747 when I get off work. It just now I have limited access during work time. I know for a fact she is legitimate in her application and never applied for any US visa before. I met her 2 years ago thru' my relatives during a trip to my ancestor home town in a small village. Since then I had visited every 6 months or twice a year to see her. On her way out after the interview, she seek the the help of a immigration attorney around the consulate, show the white slip and explained the situation. The attorney says it will look into (no price asked that time) and infor her later. To date she have not got a call yet and she intends to seek another attorney in her home town very soon. Will take Chilton747 recommendation when I call phone her again. BTW she resides in Taishan city and work as a jewellery clerk. 30yrs old while I am 20 yrs her senior.

Yes indeed I will welcome all your helpful advise and will contact Chilton747 when I get off work. It just now I have limited access during work time. I know for a fact she is legitimate in her application and never applied for any US visa before. I met her 2 years ago thru' my relatives during a trip to my ancestor home town in a small village. Since then I had visited every 6 months or twice a year to see her. On her way out after the interview, she seek the the help of a immigration attorney around the consulate, show the white slip and explained the situation. The attorney says it will look into (no price asked that time) and infor her later. To date she have not got a call yet and she intends to seek another attorney in her home town very soon. Will take Chilton747 recommendation when I call phone her again.

Thank You for the quick responds. At this moment I am unable to gather all the requirements for the time line till I get home. I recalled my petition was received and was notified to me on Jan 17th 2007. Around September USCIS sent a letter of approval and stated it will be forwarded to NVC. On September NVC gave approval and will be send to Guangzhou US Consulate for processing. Fiancee received K1 package and mailed in around earlier December. Finally received interview appointment letter 15 days prior. Every documnets and statements was done accordingly as requested by both of us. Except my one error was missing my biological form and had to resubmit with a high fee and letter of appeal, which was easily accepted at USCIS. Then it started to look good as it goes on till the moment of the interview. It was a white slip stating the documents will be return to USCIS and that was it. I had since emailed GZ Consulate hoping they will look into it. It probably won't help much but at least I tried. best regards, plau.

Hi All, My fiancee went for her interview in GZ with all the required documents. When she was called up to the window, after the polite greetings, the first words mentioned to her was that she had applied in July 07. When my fiancee honestly replied that this is a first time here from a far away small town, the interview told not to lie. Then followed by a few simple relationship questions and finally given a denial slip to go home. Of course she cried all the way home and cried for a few more days. I do not know what went wrong or is it a mistaken id or computer error to accused my sweet fiancee of lying. Since I know her over the 2 yrs, it was her first visa application and first trip to GZ city, she just barely got her passport prior to the interview. With your help, please direct me what option is best for her to succeed. Should I continue to persude the K1 or get married and apply for spouse visa? Will hiring a attorney be more successful? Thank You for reading. Best wishes.