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  1. By avoiding red flags you can increase your chances of getting the Pink. I have researched many sites to come up with a list of the main Red Flags. My hope is that this post will serve as a resource to our many current and future members.

     

    If you know of any that I have overlooked, please post them or PM me and I will add them in.

     

    If you already have some of the listed red flags, you can attach an explanation for them to your file at USCIS. That is, if it has not already been approved and sent to the NVC.

     

    Red Flags

     

    Petitioner:

    1. Petitioner is employed by or has a business relationship with a relative of beneficiary;

    2. Petitioner submits phone records that show he uses a residential phone number that is listed in the name of another person.

    3. US divorce followed very quickly by an engagement to foreign beneficiary.

    4. Long gaps of time between the petitioner & beneficiary being together in person.

    5. Failure to disclose previous petitions filed on behalf of other Beneficiaries

    6. Petitioner resides with family members of the beneficiary in the US;

    7. Infrequent contributions of money.

    8. You didn¡¯t include your wife as non-resident alien on your tax return.

     

    Beneficiary:

    1. Failure to disclose previous petitions filed by other petitioners.

    2. Previous petition not responded to resulting in a 212(a)(6)©(i)

    3. Short time from divorce to marriage with petitioner;

    4. CCP membership

    5. No written consent from ex-husband for child to immigrate.

    6. She has relatives in U.S. helping with process.

    7. She commits a misrepresentation (or the appearance of) during the interview.

     

    Both:

    1. A very brief courtship followed by a plunge into matrimony;

    2. A marriage ceremony arranged only a short time after petitioner arrives in the beneficiary¡¯s country and they meet for the first time;

    3. No common language;

    4. A large age difference between the petitioner and the beneficiary.

    5. There is little or no documentary evidence of the relationship prior to the actual engagement.

    6. Failure to disclose previous marriages;

    7. Spouse is a friend of the family.

    8. Family or friends unaware of marriage.

    9. Few common interests.

    10. Poor evidence of day to day contact.

     

    Great post, thanks! Regarding #8 for the petitioner - this may be a stupid question, can you file taxes for your fiancee or only SPOUSE? Just curious as tax time is coming up...thanx

    AW

  2. we filed 2 weeks after my divorce became final, pink first time around.

     

    vo never looked at our screen shots, emails etc, just my UK passport to confirm the first visit, didn't ask to see US passport for other visits (as that had been noted at USC days before) last he looked at visit photos.

     

    Rob&Jin, how many trips did you have to see her and when you sent in your initial I129f, did you include proof at that time? Thanks :-)

    AW

  3. oh p.s. I did hear one sucess story from a guy who sent in lots of emails and chat logs BUT he also explained in 1 or 2 sentances what each one was about in a summary page. Like email 1: My email to Ling about my next trip to see her. email 2: her response to me about could I bring her some face cream from American. email 3: my email to Ling about her brother's heart problem, was he ok? ..... etc etc. Just a thought. :-)

    AW

  4. Two thoughts, one to respond to the OPs original question, and one regarding divorce.

     

    To you, regarding chat logs: I am not expert, certainly, but I have READ a lot about this process and am especially attracted to threads regarding who gets blue and who gets pink and WHY. In my opinion - chat logs and emails mean nothing and VO's don't want to read them. They can be forged and faked. Although when I filed I had over 400 emails and DAILY chat logs with my SO, I did not print out even 1. Instead, I took a digital capture of my email inbox, where it showed his emails to me and my emails to him. And a digital capture of my chat log, showing daily chats. I added a note in my petition - if you need to see these emails or chats, don't hesistate to ask, but due to the amount, I don't want to bury you in paperwork. And I concentrated on other forms of what VO's consider "real proof" - plane tickets, travel documents, ATM receipts, charge card receipts, and of course photos. We'll see how it goes, but think if you were the VO and you got 100 pages of someone's chat, would you really want to read that?

     

    As far as divorce - I think it's a lot more significant in this case that you divorced another Chinese woman and not that you were simply divorced. There is a HUGE percentage of us who filed the I129f immediatly after divorce (me included). Are there any other CFLers who got pink first time around but filed their I129f immediately following a U.S. divorce?

     

    Good luck to everyone!

    AW

  5. Here's a question? What reason would you think you could possibly be denied? Instead of searching for the same old answers, perhaps build on what might be unexpected? What do you think?

     

    Good point... I worry too much. I know I am a paranoid nervous wreck. I can admit that. :rolleyes: there really ISN'T a reason, I have done above and beyond (proof wise, time spent together, visits, travel together out of the country and more) 95% of people in this process. If they don't approve my petition, they won't approve anyone's. I just need some faith and confidence. You are right, asking questions won't change anything now...There is nothing more I can do... maybe that is what is hard to accept - that this isn't under my control any longer. *control freak alert* :D All I can do now is WAIT and pray. I am just a woman in love who doesn't want to live the rest of her life in Asia. Best wishes to everyone and HAPPY HOLIDAYS to you and your loved ones.

    *hugs*

    AW

  6. Does anyone happen to know the legal reasons to deny a visa? Obviously, not proving a bonafide relationship is first and foremost. Not making enough money is another. Criminal record. Anything else? Can a visa be denied for any reason or is there specific denial reasons? Just curious if anyone knew... sometimes this whole process seems so subjective!

    Thanx

    AW

    The reasons for denial often have nothing to do with legal reaons, it seems that many times the reason is extremely subjective. We had a member refused a visa, the verbal explanation was the couple was too young to get married, but bonafide relationship was the explanation.

     

    This was not the judgement of the USCIS, US Government or even DOS, it was the idiocy of one visa officer in GuangZhou who by all rights should be a candidate for retroactive birth control.

     

    WOW. Intense.

     

    Yes, heard one story about a denial based on: The woman was too ugly, no man would love her!!!! Can you believe a V.O. said this to her fiancee's face?! And in my case, a lawyer that I didn't hire told me the opposite, told me (in his exact words) "You are too good looking, no hot white girl would choose a short, skinny asian man for real." NICE. VERY NICE. Can I kill him? I think I told this story already but it STILL irks me. :rolleyes: :D :D grrrrrrrrrr....

     

    How old was this couple you mention, if I may ask?

    AW

  7. Does anyone happen to know the legal reasons to deny a visa? Obviously, not proving a bonafide relationship is first and foremost. Not making enough money is another. Criminal record. Anything else? Can a visa be denied for any reason or is there specific denial reasons? Just curious if anyone knew... sometimes this whole process seems so subjective!

    Thanx

    AW

  8. My guess is they don't believe you speak Chinese fluently enough in which to communicate with her. Even if you have been in schooling for years, that doesn't mean you can actually speak and understand the language. I am in a similar situation as you, I speak the language FLUENTLY, although I am a caucasian American. My man doesn't speak much English either.

     

    I would recommend that you send in a DVD or videotape of you speaking Chinese or upload a clip of youself on a website. That is what I did. Hope it is enough! How fluent are you? Good luck!

    AW

  9. No immigration skeletons, but a few red flags... recent divorce stuff with weirdish circumstances. However, my proofs are huge - a lot of time spent together and many trips to see him.

    AW

     

     

    It would be easier for us to help you if we knew more about where you are in the visa process. Most of us put our time line in the signature of our profile.

     

    You mention your man gets nervous when interviewed by you in English. Probably most of us get nervous when interviewed by our sweet hearts lol. All kidding aside when he goes for the interview confidence helps. It could be that you are transferring your anxiety to him. If you have a straight forward case with no immigration skeletons in the closet you will most likely pass easily. From what I've seen the odds are in your favor since I know of no cases where an American woman CFL member marrying a Chinese man have been denied. Reassure him he will have an easy go of it.

  10. Thanks everyone for being so welcoming! I appreciate it a lot. Everyone tells me I worry too much...but the horror stories are, well, horrible! :-P You wouldn't believe the evil, discriminitory things I have heard (or maybe you would!) but they are just everything from racist to superficial to personal attacks on how we look. ARGH!!!!

     

    Ultimately I don't care what they say but I do worry that kind of thinking is also in the minds of the consulate and I can't live without this man. I guess we are all the same boat here. :-) Right now I am in Asia (it's 1am and I am up stressing again, hihih) but I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeally don't want to live here. I "interviewed" my man a few hours ago and he gets so nervous answering in English that he looks like he is lying. ARGH, again! :-P

     

    Any advice you all have in this process is much appreciated! I have read all the guides (probably read too much, in fact) and I can't do much more than tell the truth and show the proof and see what happens. I just feel so helpless in all this. I never knew true love could be this stressful! :-P

    American Woman

  11. well i'm not white but i am american and female and my fiance lives in china. I have seen american females on this site who have petitioned for their fiances/husbands, not a lot but there are some. good luck!

     

    Since it has been bothering me.... am I the only white American female filing for an asian man or are there others out there???

     

    American Woman

     

    I guess I didn't mean "white", I meant more like "not asian" :unsure: hihihi I know some American born asian women marry men from Asia, just wondered if there were non asian women besides me. Glad to hear I am not the only one ... had a lawyer in the states give me a hard time about "white girls don't marry asian men for real" isn't that special? So I am officially a stress case at this point, because this man is my soulmate.

    American Woman

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