splinterman

Congratulations on your pink slip success and the beginning of a beautiful life together!!

Sorry to hear about your denial, we are in the same boat, we are waiting for our case to be returned to USCIS now. Our case was filed at the Vermont SC also, when I receive any further information I will pass this on to you and maybe this can help you out. Good Luck Believe it or not, that one question was enough for the VO to decide that you 2 weren't getting the visa that day. When my wife went for her K-1 last year (our first try at getting the visa) when the VO asked her what was my job she tried telling him that I drove a particular piece of equipment but there was no word for that in Chinese so she told him I drove a 'car'. He then asked her which post office I worked at and she couldn't remember the name and that was what she told him. He then pulled out a white slip and our Hell began. This time when she went back for our CR-1 interview she knew how to say the equipment's name in English AND the name of the office I worked at. They DID ask her these questions again as well as several others they had asked at the K-1 which she had answered correctly back then. But, the interview this time was conducted in English as they rope-a-doped her last time by conducting it in Chinese, and they had an interpreter there as a witness that she did not speak in English. You could go the K-1 route again but to tell you the truth I would do the CR-1. I think it sends a stronger message to the consulate AND in the end it is cheaper. I DO believe the one question did it. Days before the interview, my SO talked about she was going shopping to buy something to put on here Mother's headstone, since 27 December, 2006 was the anniversary of her Mother's passing away. At that moment I knew the Interview was in Trouble. I told her that her Mother had passed away in November 2007. 2007 is on the document. We had talked about this months ago, when she did not remember the date. I showed her a picture of the headstone, but no date on the stone. I DO believe if I am not with her at least a week before the next Interview to coach her, failure will be the outcome. The problem I have now is try to get an Interview date other than the Hot months. I would not survive the heat. I had a couple of difficult warm days in April there. Could not breath. Hanging in there. Bob..... .. Is it possible that your SO was talking about the lunar date instead of the calendar date of her mom's passing? Many times in the past when my wife and I were discussing specific dates we had this problem where she was referencing a lunar date and I was talking about the calendar date. They are about a month apart... But you are right in that a big key to passing the interview is your preparation of your Hunnie. We started about 3 months before the interview going over all possible questions and answers they could ask, and I remember at the time thinking..."This is too soon. I only need to begin doing this about a month before." Well, I was wrong. In the end I was glad we started when we did and it took that long to get my wife up to snuff on not only the information and answers, but to ALSO get her to answer quickly, accurately and in a convincing manner like she KNEW the information and wasn't guessing at the answer. There is more to the preparation than the correctness of the response and I try to relay to people that HOW you answer is just as important as WHAT you answer with.

Robert, I don't think the VOs ask for the past year's taxes until at least April 15th when they're due at the IRS. They know that the W-2s aren't even mailed out until Jan 31st at the latest, and most people don't file right away.

About the only positive thing I can readily think of that the visa process does for a couple is it does serve to bring the couple closer and make their bond that much tighter. I'm sure SOME of that is by design on the part of the government but their reasons for making the process as lengthy as it is are probably more self-serving...

Sorry to hear about your denial, we are in the same boat, we are waiting for our case to be returned to USCIS now. Our case was filed at the Vermont SC also, when I receive any further information I will pass this on to you and maybe this can help you out. Good Luck Believe it or not, that one question was enough for the VO to decide that you 2 weren't getting the visa that day. When my wife went for her K-1 last year (our first try at getting the visa) when the VO asked her what was my job she tried telling him that I drove a particular piece of equipment but there was no word for that in Chinese so she told him I drove a 'car'. He then asked her which post office I worked at and she couldn't remember the name and that was what she told him. He then pulled out a white slip and our Hell began. This time when she went back for our CR-1 interview she knew how to say the equipment's name in English AND the name of the office I worked at. They DID ask her these questions again as well as several others they had asked at the K-1 which she had answered correctly back then. But, the interview this time was conducted in English as they rope-a-doped her last time by conducting it in Chinese, and they had an interpreter there as a witness that she did not speak in English. You could go the K-1 route again but to tell you the truth I would do the CR-1. I think it sends a stronger message to the consulate AND in the end it is cheaper.

You could call DOS(202 663 1225) to find out some info on your case. if it was a blue, you will have another chance in GUZ soon. if it was white, I would at least try to email GUZ (http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/contactiv.html) to explain your relationship (GUZ more likely would make some note on your case record when you do that, you could also request their supperviser's review on the case, also have your congress office to write to GUZ, the goal by doing these is, if it was white, to keep your case in GUZ, at least you tried, good luck. Thanks. My Fiancee is on a plane now heading home, so will wait and see what she says, and try to get more info. Good luck to you guys, I feel your pain. Don't buy into any garbage about GUZ not giving blue and white slips without a good reason. Ya sure, ya betcha and I once saw a cow jump over the moon too. tsap seui The problem is to find out what the GUZ thinks is a no no, and do a correction, or we will just be doing a rerun. Highlander, more than likely you'll have to simply GUESS at what the reason(s) could be since the majority of people don't ever find out why they were denied. There are a whole list of reasons that have been cited by those few folks lucky enough to have gotten some info about their denial, and then you have to rebut or make your best case in defense of these reasons when you put your next petition together. When my wife told me what questions were asked of her at her CR-1 interview I saw that they were very much the same ones asked of her at her K-1 which then resulted in our white slip. Interestingly enough, she didn't answer those questions incorrectly and excepting one question where I am sure the K-1 VO misunderstood her answer, her answers for the CR-1 were exactly the same. Was the VO just checking up on the answers from the first interview, to see if they were still the same? I don't know, but when I asked her what the VO did each time she responded to his question she said he typed in the computer. This may mean nothing to some folks but I interpret it as possible red flags that had been input into the computer by the K-1 VO, and the CR-1 VO was reviewing those flags, thuis him asking my wife the same questions. Another item of note was that at the K-1 there was a Chinese girl interpreter present right from the beginning of the interview. The VO had asked my wife if she spoke english and she told him "A little bit" and so he conducted the interview in Chinese. My wife's English ability was more than sufficient to have the K-1 interview in English but I imagine her response gave themn enough doubt that they just did the interview in Chinese. When she went for the CR-1 nterview they had an interpreter there again from the time she walked up to the window. When the VO asked her this time if she could speak English she left no doubt when she told them, "Yes, I speak English.". The VO then sent the interpreter away, but it was crystal clear that the CR-1 VO had relied on the notes from the K-1 VO to guide the progress of the CR-1 interview. Lastly, Tsap is absolutely right. Guangzhou really doesn't NEED a reason to deny you. Since their decisions are not subject to review and they're never called upon to explain their rationale for their decisions, they simply decide based on their gut feelings.

I think that is what my lawyer intend to do. thank you for the tip. as far as i know. all the question were answered and we are not missing any documents. that lady did the interview already decide to deny my fiance visa before the interview begin. the whole time she was there. no one gets pink slip from that particular lady. something illegal is going on. {Edit} Repair broken quote tags. something was not right as you got white,I dont believe they give denial for no reason. You need to look at your case carefully, you made mistake somewhare, in documents truth, in preperation, in proof of bonefide, but not just simple mistake to get blue. I'm sorry to hear of Crazybanana's white, as it bring back a lot of unhappy and disappointed memories for my wife and I. It's not always a case of doing something wrong or that something was missing in the preparation of the case. The more and more I see white slips, and even blues, coming out of K-1 interviews and then looking at their timelines, I am getting the feeling that the VOs just do not like to see divorces from the US men and then 'quick' relationships ending in marriage plans with the foreign ladies. I believe that the longer a fiancee relationship goes before a K-1 petition is filed, the better the chances of it resulting in a pink slip. I'm sure that this is not the only reason that whites, and blues, are issued but I think it is a prime reason. Sometimes, there may be a collage of red flag issues that maybe individually do not amount to much but together they present a negative judgement call on the part of the VOs. Since at the time the interview is conducted there is only a few moments spent on reviewing the case file on the part of the VOs, I think the key is in HOW you present your relationship using the documentation. Once you've passed an acceptable 'time limit'-meaning how long as a K-1 couple you've been together before filing the K-1-the next test is how you've presented your petition and how well it is documented. The last part of the process is the interview. English ability is a must in the eyes of the VO but just HOW important I think is determined by the individual VO's feelings, and then after that it is demonstrating that the lady has sufficient in-depth knowledge of her intended spouse's family and life. It's interesting to note that in reviewing the Administrative Decisions for appealed visa petition cases it's been decided that there is NO REQUIREMENT for the beneficiary to demonstrate an in-depth knowledge of the petitioner's life or family history in order to be eligible for a visa, but the non-reviewability of the consular officer's decision simply means that the VO gets to do whatever they feel like doing. Until this 'loophole' is addressed and closed these conflicts will continue to occur and more couples will get white and blue slips. Crazybanana, don't get too upset over the white slip they gave you. You've got nothing on your hands but time now as you wait for the next developments in your case, so figure out a Plan B and then put it into action. More waiting may be exactly what the VOs decided your relationship needs before they 'grant' you the visa. I personally would not wait for the petition to be returned to the USCIS nor would I waste my time asking my congressional reps to help because you're wasting YOUR time-they can and will not do anything of substance for you. Think seriously about ging back and getting married-and NOT in a month or two, make it a little bit longer-and then sit down and try to determine some of the other possibilities why they could have decided to white you. There are plenty of folks here on CFL who have been the recipients of white slips and they know better than any of the others how to look at your case with a practiced eye to sniff out the possible reasons the VO didn't want to give you a pink slip. Any of these folks will help you-PM them and pick their brains. Best of all, this help is free!

Scott and Crazy, good luck tomorrow, all in December will be pink, it is gods way to bless christmas Let's GO Scott and Crazybanana!!! PINK it must be to keep the train rolling!!!! Merry Christmas to one and all!!!

Man this is GREAT! Louis got his pink too and now Tom is up at bat! THINK POSITIVE!! Congrats to all!!!

CONGRATS to BSLS!!!! Great work!! The worst part is over and now you can concentrate on more meaningful things!!!

So far everyone has given you great advice on how to overcome the Blue Slip. You're lucky-a year ago this would probably have been a White Slip. Read their requested items carefully and give them exactly what they are asking for-and anything that can't be provided for whatever reason, explain it to them as you've explained it here. Have your written statements notarized, if at all possible. It's not unusual that the gal has the items at the time of the interview but the VO refuses to look at the evidence then and there. Even though this is a delay it is a better turn of events for you because you now have the time to add to and organize your submissions. Be methodical as you go down that list of requested evidence, and everything will turn out fine! Good Luck!

Yeah Gary, you might be right about the VOs being forced to watch the Grinch and Scrooge! Let's all give Bigslugandlittleslug a hearty round of applause for the PINK we know they're going to get!!! They're going to keep the PINK DRIVE ALIVE!!!

HEY! I just remembered...what happened to those Giants? STFU LOL, don't be a Hater! I'll make room on the bus just for you!

Make that mistake again Kyle, and Robert will take away your doughnuts! thanks, i keep praying, and thanks for the candle, what a great bunch of caring people, I wish I could meet all of you. Tom, I think one of the best things you can do is to keep drilling her on the questions. For us, I began asking Joey the questions about 2 months before our CR-1 interview and I'm glad I started that early because it took a while for her to be able to answer correctly and quickly. In the end, most of the questions asked this time were the same as those asked at our K-1 interview. It wasn't that she had answered incorrectly at the K-1, save for possibly one, but I believe that how slowly and unconvincingly she may have answered them was the cause of our denial. If you keep going over the questions and answers she will gain confidence, and I really believe that is important for her to be able to do well overall at the interview. Good Luck!!!

Very sage advice!!