Blue slip list / Denials

[nooneufo]

Analysis shows that a portion of blue slips we hear about at CFL are sometimes missing some facts or information relevant to the situation described, (often emotions becoming the overriding factor) so that we do not get a clear picture of what has happened, therefore this results in this list to have some probable error because some speculation is needed. Sometimes what is being posted by the petitioner is confusing. Often what we read comes from the petitioner who has gotten it from their beneficiary (sometimes only through email or phone), who may not have a full command of English. Add in the complicated visa papers and process, bureaucracy, and resultant stress leading up to the interview. Then each of us reads what is written through our own experiential filter. This makes getting to the bare facts a little difficult.

I should also add that a large number of CFL members fail to provide important data in their posts, what evidence they submitted with their application, the evidence they brought, specific questions asked at the interview, details like number of visits, their timeline. There is a high correlation between those who do not post this information clearly and blue slips.

 

It is possible that some people do not read the needed information at CFL soon enough, or mis-understand its content in relation to their own situation for a variety of reasons and so therefore fail to take necessary action.

It should be noted, that probably an unknown larger number of CFL readers benefit from this same information, take action, which results in us not hearing of a problem. (See Statistics part of this post).

 

Recommended reading are the two previous blue slip lists here:

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11959

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...93&hl=blue+slip

 

 

The most recent additions to the June 2005 posting blue slip list are:

Type---CFL Name--------Interview--At GUZ?--Perceived problem---Status

 

K1/K2---diver1959------12/20/05---No/No----Birth certificate----------------------Waiting to return with document

K3------JamesBDennis---12/14/05---Yes/Yes--Telephone record/Divorce-proof of ex's location---Waiting

K1/K2---correllwl------12/12/05---Yes/No---Video/financial evidence----Waiting to 01/10/07 for re-submission

K3------Cerberus-------12/06/05---No/No----Telephone record---Resolved

IR2-----bobmal99-------11/21/05---Yes/Yes--No green card/No parental permission---Resolved

K1/K2---notrevorich----11/07/05---No/Yes---More evidence/Relationship evidence not clear/only one visit ---Resolved

CR1-----sailorboy------11/07/05---Yes/No---Number of visits---Resolved

K1/K2---Alex-----------12/09/04---No/Yes---11/04/05 1st interview/TPC/Divorce/custody/---No report/Last heard from at GUZ

K3/CR1--EdG------------10/19/05---No/Yes---Previous Divorce/More evidence/# of Visits---Resolved

K3/CR1--Sitesnbagsrus--10/19/05---???------Financial---No report

K1/K2---christer-------09/29/05---No/Yes---More evidence/TPC---Awaiting review at DHS

K1/K2---esun41---------09/24/05---No/Yes---More evidence/Divorce filed very close---Resolved

 

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K1/K2---diver1959---------No/No---12/20/05---Birth certificate---------Waiting to return with document 20/17CX79J3Oct05R25Dec05

 

Synopsis:

Petitioner not at interview.

Apparently the beneficiary left the son's birth certificate at home. Told to schedule a time to bring this document in where hopefully the visa should be approved.

 

Status as of 25 December 2005.

 

Commentary:

You don't want this to happen to you. Check all your documents, often. There are FAQs here at CFL on not only what to bring but how to organize it as well. Always check the consulate web site, and in the documents the beneficiary receives.

 

 

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K3-----JamesBDennis----12/14/05---Yes/Yes----Telephone record/Divorce-proof of ex's location---DHS review---No---11/11UNDJ8Apr05R25Dec05

 

Synopsis:

Three visits before marriage, four visits before the interview, additional visit at interview. Five visits total.

Wife has previous divorce.

VO asked for phone records, which the petitioner had written an explanation for their not existing, but it was not accepted, and for Divorce - proof of beneficiaries ex's location. Petitioner is currently in China and they have submitted further information at an overcome meeting but were not approved. Case is being sent back to DHS for review and possible revocation. We are waiting to hear more from petitioner on plans such as hiring an attorney or other efforts while still in China. Status as of 25 December 2005.

 

Commentary:

There is a divorce involved and based on the few posts available it sounds as if the document preparation could have been done better. The fact that phone records were asked for but not really available points us in this direction along with the added later evidence to include a copy of the petitioners passport which we take to assume this was not provided at the interview, and the concern with English skills.

What is interesting is the proof they provide to the consulate on the Ex.

What we got is a letter from his work place stamped with their stamp and with their address and phone number, a letter from the local police as to his address, a copy of his ID card, a utility bill with his name on it, and two photo's of him holding a newspaper by a big building with lot's of writing on it.

This has occurred before, and one has to wonder at requests to perform what appears to be nearly impossible efforts that they ask some people to do. Very lucky that the Ex was possible to find and agreeable.

It is unfortunate that this case is not finished, but with the petitioner still in China it is hoped that they can get this resolved soon.

 

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K1/K2---correllwl---------Yes/No---12/12/05---Video/Financial evidence----Waiting to 01/10/07 for re-submission 1/1UNX1DJ28Dec05R29Dec05

 

Synopsis:

Both previously married. Both divorces over two years old.

Petitioner was at the interview. This was third trip to China.

Questions asked were financial and English skills. Evidence included phone records, emails, photos, proof of divorces.

Visa denied asking for communications video and proof of both ex-spouses residencies. New evidence submitted a week later and again visa is denied.

 

Apparently video had faulty audio. Asked to return with new tape and additional proof of employment. New copy of tape is made plus letter of employment and last 3 months copies of pay/retirement pay stubs. Beneficiary to return 01/10/07 for submission of evidence. Status as of 30 December 2005.

 

Read post here:

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...pic=13743&st=15

 

Comments:

This one is a little harder because of the English skills question tied in with the request for information on the ex-spouses, we have to assume the VO sees something they don't like about it. However, the later request for proof of employment leaves us wondering again about the initial application evidence in the story it tells the VO. It appears that the additional factor of English skills, perhaps VO scheduling, is the source of the denial and they want a new outline of the relationship. If we went on the additional information request after the the first overcome, we hope this will be a visa approval after the additional evidence is provided.

Edited December 30, 2005 by nooneufo (see edit history)