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#1 Randy W

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 03:48 AM

9/25 - The switch-over to http://candleforlove.org IS ON HOLD. Please continue using your existing links to CFL for now.

 

Unfortunately, the handover process from Carl's Estate to the current team is not complete. In the event that we MAY need to experience site outages, we have established a SECONDARY site for CFL site information at http://candleforlove.org.

 

We expect that everything will go smoothly, but in case we experience a site outage 

 

Please make a note of this temporary site - http://candleforlove.org.

 

For now, it will simply redirect you here, to candleforlove.com

 

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#2 amberjack1234

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 02:21 PM

I am not speaking ill of ole Carl he did a lot of thankless work for this site but knowing the shape he was is it seems like he would have taken care of all of that before he got to bad off.   I have see the same thing so many times.



#3 Dennis143

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 04:16 PM

I am not speaking ill of ole Carl he did a lot of thankless work for this site but knowing the shape he was is it seems like he would have taken care of all of that before he got to bad off.   I have see the same thing so many times.

If I were facing death, I might see many things as insignificant... knowing that CFL will live on, regardless, might be one of those.  

 

Proof is what Randy and the team has undertaken to allow the site to carry on.


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Posted 15 September 2017 - 07:03 PM

I said that I meant no ill will of Carl.   I thought a lot of Carl however folks do things differently in different circumstances.   I may have done the same thing but it will still make Dan and others job more difficult.



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Posted 15 September 2017 - 08:13 PM

I said that I meant no ill will of Carl.   I thought a lot of Carl however folks do things differently in different circumstances.   I may have done the same thing but it will still make Dan and others job more difficult.


He had given me everything, but domain is one of those things that gets renewed sometimes for 5 or even 10 years it's something that gets paid and forgotten about until an email comes along to remind you. This is something anyone can forget.
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Posted 15 September 2017 - 09:32 PM

I understand more now.   Thank you.  I hope that you don't have to much trouble.

 

This is an experience that I had:

 

My next door neighbor had diabetes and was not able to take care of himself so my wife cooked his meals and I took care of his house and the yard.   We did this for 5 years free of charge.   He was a good neighbor and friend and always share whatever he had with us and we did the same with him.   We were that close.   His brothers had him put in a VA hospital some 2 1/2 hours away so we did not get to see him much over the last 5 years of his life but we still took care of his yard and when I cut my grass and did my weed eating I did his too.  If if had not been for me it would have grown up so much that you could not have even been able to see it from the road which it had done before he bought it.    His house was something like 80 years old.  He had remodeled it and it looked good but had fallen into disrepair over the years that he lived there and the 5 remaining years that he spent in the VA nursing home.   He was a great ole guy and a good friend and did a lot for my mother after my father passed away.  

 

He had his brothers bring him home so that he could say goodby to all of his friends one weekend.   My wife was at the end stage of her cancer but was able to get over to see him twice.   Then his brothers took him back to the nursing home and he passed away about 2 months later.   Unknown to the wife and I while he was home he hand wrote his will in front of a notary public that worked for his two brothers and the two brothers witnessed it, he signed it and the notary public put her seal on it and also signed it.   But they never had it recorded in the courthouse as he ask them to do.   One other thing is that ole Bill had a son that he did not want to get anything.   So he left him one dollar.   In his will he left the house to my wife and I.   It sat on only 1/3 of a acre so it was not worth much but he wanted us to have it.

 

After he died and before he was even buried his 20 year estranged wife came down from Virginia and put everything he had in the yard and had a yard sale.   The two brothers gave her the will and she saw where he had left the house to us and nothing for HER favorite son.   There were 3 son's.   She immediately tore the will into at least 100 pieces.   Well it was not recorded in the court house and there was only one copy.   His two brothers took the pieces and put them back together and taped them up and took it to the clerk of superior court and she told them no good, sorry about that.   So Bill's wife disposed of the property as she pleased and we were never given a chance to even make an offer to purchase the house.

 

The point that I am trying to make, because of what happened to me is:   If you are terminally ill and you want something done the way that you want it done is you have to do it yourself.   You can not depend on anyone not even your brothers to take care of it for you.   When it comes my time if I have the time, baring a stroke or heart attack etc etc, I will do the best that I can to get everything in order before I kick the bucket.

 

I also had a aunt that married a man that who's father had a lot of farm and forest land.   He died of cancer and left no will.   The 9 children fought tooth and nail over this property for 35 years.   Some of them even passed away before the estate was ever settled.   I think that all the lawyers got the lion's share.



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Posted 15 September 2017 - 11:59 PM

I think the thinking is pretty much done. I did a lot of research on trying to find the conservator in public records.

 

I think this road is the best and probably only way we can go. It is right and it is legal. That doesn't happen too often these days.

 

All we can do is thank Carl and move on. I think he knew the keeper of the keys would take care of this site. We have some good people here. A good balance of opinions. I truly believe we have the best source of information on China and all of Asia with regard to visa processing. And we have some experienced people to advise on the things they never tell you, from the mistakes we have made, and from some of the great and humorous stories we share. Some, not so humorous.

 

We'll make it. Press on.


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Posted 16 September 2017 - 01:31 AM

Well said Eric.



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Posted 21 September 2017 - 04:04 PM

Greetings to old friends who are still active on this site. Surely you all still remember me?

Received an email about domain change of the site and came back to check it out seven years after my last visit. Saddened by Carl's passing. May the good man RIP in a good place. Glad to see the site had been thriving till this critical point.

It seemed the good man Carl passed all admin work to the current team but forgot to transfer the domain or the ownership. It also seemed Carl did not include the site in his estate planning. With his passing away, the current admin team has been placed in an unexpected predicament.

Given the legal intricacy, I wonder if the current admin team is open to think out of the box?

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Posted 21 September 2017 - 09:21 PM

Good to hear from you Bessie.   Certainly I remember you.   Hope you are doing well and could stop by and say howdy more often.



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Posted 21 September 2017 - 11:27 PM

Greetings to old friends who are still active on this site. Surely you all still remember me?

Received an email about domain change of the site and came back to check it out seven years after my last visit. Saddened by Carl's passing. May the good man RIP in a good place. Glad to see the site had been thriving till this critical point.

It seemed the good man Carl passed all admin work to the current team but forgot to transfer the domain or the ownership. It also seemed Carl did not include the site in his estate planning. With his passing away, the current admin team has been placed in an unexpected predicament.

Given the legal intricacy, I wonder if the current admin team is open to think out of the box?

 

 

If someone knows Carl's immediate family directly, perhaps they could help expedite the matter.

 

His surviving family members are his sister Jeanne, brother Devon, and wife Bing. We have heard from Jeanne, who has said that Carl would want them to help, but have received no further response.

 

For now, though, our hands are tied as the domain name 'candleforlove.com' is tied up in the Estate.

 

We would expect to be able to return to 'candleforlove.com' hopefully bu the end of the year, but you never know.



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Posted 21 September 2017 - 11:32 PM

Yes, I remember you, Bessie. I had another name then I have long forgotten myself.

 

Any other "old" guys should come back and swap some stories. I will bet they are good ones.

 

And this admin team (excluding yours truly) is pretty damn good. We got a work around that will work.



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Posted 22 September 2017 - 12:38 AM

Gentlemen, appreciate your still remembering me. I've been doing just fine, with some ups and downs, and some quite stormy and trying times -- the stories of my life.

Indeed the work here has been impressive. Kudos to the admin team for a job well done.

It seems to me that the transfer of domain or ownership could be very easy or near impossible, depending on whether Carl had a will which clearly designated a beneficiary to this site and the monetary value the beneficiary could demand.

I think the ideas and spirit of this site have the potential to venture into a far bigger social platform like FaceBook, etc.

Have the team considered out-of-box solutions? For example, you could get a new domain, establish a new site, and place a link to this site. On the new site, you could include more sections, such as old forums for discussions, blogs to tell stories of pre-and-post marriages, translation/ interpretation services, periodic offsite gatherings, etc., just to name a few.

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 08:20 AM

9/25 - The switch-over to http://candleforlove.org IS ON HOLD. Please continue using your existing links to CFL for now.

 

 

The LOGO has changed to reflect the new domain name - the change will occur when Dan changes the DNS and host files. Apparently, the DNS servers need a couple of days to propogate the new listing. In the meantime, they have taken over the http://candleforlove.org lead-in.

 

IF YOU SEEM to be in CandleForLove - you ARE in CandleForLove. There is (and will be) ONLY ONE underlying database.

 

NO POSTS WILL BE LOST.

 

If you get some sort of "domain does not exist" message, try entering "candleforlove.org" in your address bar.

 

 

I'll keep this post active so that it'll stay on the 'Most Recent Posts' list. - now 9/24/2017

 

Be sure to read the OP at http://candleforlove...my-waters-ahead, if you haven't already. Remember - http://candleforlove.org

 

Any ol' port in a storm!

 

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 02:43 AM

This is on hold for more info

 

9/25 - The switch-over to http://candleforlove.org IS ON HOLD. Please continue using your existing links to CFL for now.





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