China on the South China Seas

[bigdog]

Maybe we need to stop funding all this BS and take care of the people in the US.

[tsap seui]

Maybe we need to stop funding all this BS and take care of the people in the US.

 

 

I'll give a hearty WHOOO RAH to that sentiment.

 

Glad to see you found this website bigdawg...welcome

 

tsap seui

[Randy W]

Going on out there now. This is from a Philippine news source . . .

 

Philippine ship defies China's Ayungin blockade

A civilian ship transporting food and supplies to the Ayungin Shoal was blocked by two Chinese Coast Guard vessels and told to leave the area on Saturday afternoon.

 

The ship was supposed to bring food to soldiers stationed at the Ayungin Shoal, internationally known as Second Thomas Shoal.

 

. . .

 

The civilian vessel eventually reached the BRP Sierra Madre, the ship that has been grounded at the Ayungin Shoal where Philippine soldiers are staying, at around 3 p.m., the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) said.

 

Act of harassment

 

According to the Philippine Navy, what the Chinese Coast Guard did was a sign of aggression and hostility, and thus could be categorized as harassment.

 

[Randy W]

. . . and from Xinhua

 

China never allows Philippines to seize Ren'ai Reef: FM spokesman

 

Hong Lei, the spokesman, made the remarks in a written statement in response to the Philippines' action of sending a supply ship to the Ren' ai Reef with journalists on board on Saturday.

 

He said the Philippines' action was aimed to hype up the South China Sea issue, so as to serve its attempt to illegally seize the Ren'ai Reef.

 

The Philippines' action can not change the fact that China owns sovereignty over the Nansha Islands, including the Ren'ai Reef, and can not shake China's resolve to safeguard its national sovereignty, said the spokesman.

 

He stressed that China would never allow the Philippines to undermine the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC) signed by China and ASEAN member countries in 2002.

 

The Philippines grounded a warship near the Ren'ai Reef in the South China Sea in 1999 and refused to retrieve the ship.

 

[Randy W]

China stands firm against Manila sea plea to intl court

 

Quote

 

Philippine Marines raise the Philippine flag on the dilapidated navy ship LT57 BRP Sierra Madre at the disputed Ren'ai Reef in the South China Sea on Sunday. On Saturday, China Coast Guard attempted to block the Philippine government vessel AM700 carrying fresh troops and supplies, but the latter managed to dock beside the ship to replace troops who were deployed several months ago. Photo: AP

 

Notice the "territory" that they're squabbling over here.

Edited June 6, 2021 by Randy W (see edit history)

[warpedbored]

China is rapidly becoming the neighborhood bully in the south China seas.

[Randy W]

Obama: Senkakus ‘within scope’ of U.S.-Japan treaty

 

 

President Barack Obama—for the first time as an incumbent U.S. president—clearly stated the Senkaku Islands in Okinawa Prefecture are subject to Article 5 of the Japan-U.S. Security Treaty, in a written reply to questions submitted by The Yomiuri Shimbun.

 

“The policy of the United States is clear—the Senkaku Islands are administered by Japan and therefore fall within the scope of Article 5 of the U.S.-Japan Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security. And we oppose any unilateral attempts to undermine Japan’s administration of these islands,” the U.S leader stated ahead of his visit to Japan starting Wednesday.

 

Article 5 stipulates U.S. defense obligations to Japan, which apply to territories under the administration of Japan. Obama’s comment therefore means the United States will defend Japan in the event of a Chinese incursion on the islets, over which China also claims sovereignty.

 

[Randy W]

China's new "vertical map" was issued this week to show the "full extent of China's territory"

 

New vertical map shows full extent of China’s territory

 

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China unveiled its first official vertical national map to better serve the public alongside all previous versions of national maps, and China has never changed its stance on the South China Sea, the foreign ministry said on Wednesday.

"It's unnecessary to make further interpretations out of this. China has always held a consistent and clear stance on the South China Sea," said foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying.

The nation's first vertical map, published on Monday, is seen as a reaffirming gesture to emphasize China's sovereignty over the disputed waters in the South China Sea.

The new map gives equal weight to both land and sea, with the islands and waters of the South China Sea presented on the same scale in one map with the nine-dash demarcation line clearly marked.

Previous national maps were horizontal in orientation and focused on the country's land area, while the South China Sea was separately featured in a small box in the bottom corner.

 

. . .

 

“The goal is to serve the Chinese public,” Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said in a news briefing. “China’s position on the South China Sea issue is consistent and extremely clear. Our stance has not changed.”

 

 

China's New Vertical Map Gives Extra Play To Disputed South China Sea Territories

 

New map:

 

 

Previous map:

 

 

I suppose the U.S. and Great Britain could issue similar maps showing the full extent of THEIR territories (otherwise known as Maps of THE WORLD).

Edited June 6, 2021 by Randy W (see edit history)

[Randy W]

Another essay in the Global Times

 

US biased in push for S.China Sea ‘freeze’

 

Therefore, China should think about how to mediate with the US to prevent it from irritating us while reaping the gain. China should let the US eat some unexpected bitterness.

Western opinion will quibble about the South China Sea issue for a long time, which will be a challenge for China's diplomacy in Southeast Asia. Safeguarding sovereignty and maintaining a peripheral strategic environment are both important for China. China should try to make a balance.

China must be confident and stick to the following principles: It has the right to safeguard its sovereignty and it has no intention to go to war. China is a regional power that has the initiative to control the conflict. Meanwhile, any country that confronts China has to bear the consequences. Finally, China will not make trouble, but equally is unafraid of any trouble.

 

[Greg.D.]

China is participating in the RIMPAC operations right now near .... either Hawaii or SoCal - which I think is a great thing. On the one hand, I think if they really want to pursue their extraordinary claim, they are going to have to fight for it - which would truly produce no winners. (Plenty of unexpected bitterness to go around)

 

Ratcheting public sentiment against the Japanese is one thing, but their activities in 2014 are definitely provocative - we can't even hope for a diplomatic, face-saving stalemate since they'll be drilling for oil now. I don't think the generals and commanders come away from the RIMPAC exercise all jacked up and ready to enforce a military solution in a legal dispute.

 

It will be interesting.

[Randy W]

China is participating in the RIMPAC operations right now near .... either Hawaii or SoCal - which I think is a great thing. On the one hand, I think if they really want to pursue their extraordinary claim, they are going to have to fight for it - which would truly produce no winners. (Plenty of unexpected bitterness to go around)

 

Ratcheting public sentiment against the Japanese is one thing, but their activities in 2014 are definitely provocative - we can't even hope for a diplomatic, face-saving stalemate since they'll be drilling for oil now. I don't think the generals and commanders come away from the RIMPAC exercise all jacked up and ready to enforce a military solution in a legal dispute.

 

It will be interesting.

 

from the BBC -

China moves Vietnam row oil rig

In a statement, China National Petroleum Corp (CNPC) said it would now assess the data collected by the rig.

 

. . .

 

Vietnam's coast guard told Reuters news agency that the rig was now moving away towards China's Hainan island.

 

Coast Guard Chief of Staff Admiral Ngo Ngoc Thu said the rig had been moving since late on Tuesday. A senior fisheries official also confirmed that the rig was under way.

 

 

 

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/74716000/gif/_74716789_china_vietnam_sprat_464.gif

 

 

. . . and Xinhua

 

CNPC ends drilling off Xisha Islands

 

Preliminary analysis of the geological data acquired has shown that the area, or Zhongjian Sag as it is called, has the basic conditions and potential for oil exploration, but extraction testing cannot begin before a comprehensive assessment of the data, said Wang Zhen, deputy director of CNPC Policy Research Office.

 

For safety reasons, the test operation was not arranged immediately, because July is the beginning of the typhoon season.

 

While the project may help improve understanding of the engineering and geological issues in the South China Sea, the development of "deep-sea drilling technology" will also benefit, said Wang.

 

[Greg.D.]

I believe this rig is their first wholly, Chinese-built offshore platform - so, it is also a test of its functionality - and this operation was exploratory. And, for sure, there is bad weather there off of the Phillipines.

[Greg.D.]

I believe this rig is their first wholly, Chinese-built offshore platform - so, it is also a test of its functionality - and this operation was exploratory. And, for sure, there is bad weather there off of the Phillipines.

So, RW, do you think this is an opportunity to reduce the tensions? And/or, do you think the rig will return?

Greg

[Randy W]

I believe this rig is their first wholly, Chinese-built offshore platform - so, it is also a test of its functionality - and this operation was exploratory. And, for sure, there is bad weather there off of the Phillipines.

So, RW, do you think this is an opportunity to reduce the tensions? And/or, do you think the rig will return?

 

Greg

 

The rig floats - they can take it anywhere they want. They're buying themselves some time, for now.

 

The first?

 

http://en.cnooc.com.cn/data/html/english/channel_145.html

China's first independently designed and constructed 3,000-metre, sixth-generation deepwater semisubmersible drilling platform, Hai Yang Shi You 981, commenced operations in the 1,500-metre-deep water area of eastern South China Sea on 9 May 2012

 

[Randy W]

In the Global Times - at least they're avoiding any collisions this time US urged to scale back surveillance Spying activities more ‘provocative’

Pentagon spokesperson Rear Admiral John Kirby Friday accused the Chinese jet of performing an "unsafe and unprofessional intercept," and claimed that the closest distance between the wingtips was nine meters.

 

He said the intercept posed a risk to the safety of the air crew and was inconsistent with customary international law.

 

Yang dismissed Kirby's accusation, saying it was "totally groundless." During the identification and verification, the relevant operations made by the Chinese pilot were professional and the Chinese jet kept a safe distance from the US planes, he said.

 

Yang said that US massive and frequent short-range surveillance of China is the root cause of accidents and endangers maritime and air military security between China and the US.