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in the Global Times

 

Draft maritime law revisions say China may bar foreign ships from passing through its waters

The Legislative Affairs Office of the State Council announced Tuesday it is soliciting public opinions on the revisions.
The revisions are based on the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea and Chinese laws on the sea, adjacent areas and exclusive economic zones, the office said.
The draft would empower Chinese maritime authorities to prevent foreign ships from entering Chinese waters if it is decided that the ships may harm traffic safety and order.
The revisions stipulate that the authorities will be able to designate specific areas and bar foreign ships from passing through those areas according to their own assessment of maritime traffic safety.
Foreign submersibles should travel on the surface, display national flags and report to Chinese maritime management administrations when they pass China's water areas, the draft says. They should also get approval from the relevant administration to enter China's internal waters and ports.
Foreign ships that violate Chinese laws should be expelled, according to the draft.
The draft also states that people in distress at sea have the right to be rescued without charge, adding that human lives should come before the environment and assets.
The State Council and local governments should set up maritime search and rescue centers, if needed, to organize, coordinate and command rescue operations, the draft says. Civilian groups are also encouraged by the revised regulations to set up rescue teams and participate in such operations.

 

 

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Interesting article here. People claim he is very popular in the Philippines but that popularity is suspect. He does not have the highest compared to his predecessors or his opposition. And his opinions are not that popular with the people themselves, especially about Americans and his chumming with China.

 

He also has not said anything about the 5 bases that were built before his administration started. He wants money.

 

http://thediplomat.com/2016/10/the-truth-about-dutertes-popularity-in-the-philippines

 

 

I could go on, but in short, Duterte’s popularity ratings are higher, but not that much higher than his predecessors to warrant any special attention.

Popularity vs. Policies

Second, it is important not to conflate Duterte’s popularity with support for his policies, which appears to be far lower and could in fact impact his popularity further down the line.

There is of course the general caveat that while Filipinos, as with other publics, may support the election of an outsider to signal their discontent with the status quo and their desire for something different, they may not necessarily also approve of all the things that he or she may do to accomplish that. But in Duterte’s case, that is additionally significant since some of the policies he has planned – like constitutional change and a federalist system of government or a peace process with communist rebels – are bold, risky, and not necessarily all that popular. Furthermore, some of his positions can easily feed into a narrative already forming in the Philippines of the emergency of another Marcos-style dictator bent on subverting democracy.

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in the SCMP

 

Nearly two dozen of the structures that resemble housings for long-range, surface-to-air missiles have been built on disputed islands, officials say

 

The US intelligence official said the structures did not pose a significant military threat to American forces in the region, given their visibility and vulnerability.
Building them appeared to be more of a political test of how the Trump administration would respond, he said.
“The logical response would also be political – something that should not lead to military escalation in a vital strategic area,” the official said.

 

 

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New aircraft launching systems - no, not the "ski jump". In the SCMP. Seems like their "news" is jumping the gun a little bit, but here it is:

 

 

China’s jet launch system for next carrier ‘better than US design’, top military engineer claims

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“The Gerald Ford cancelled its AAG and reverted to its original [arresting wire] system. We have no such problem,” he said, referring to the US’ new class of aircraft carrier.
 
He also said China’s electromagnetic aircraft launch system (EMALS) was more advanced than comparable US technology.
“We have long overcome [all technical difficulties in EMALS]. I have ­already moved on from this [area of research and development],” he said.
 
Saying he was just a scientific researcher, Ma declined to say when his advanced technologies would be installed on China’s homegrown carriers.
 
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An earlier report by the South China Morning Postsaid China would not adopt the highly ­advanced EMALS technology on the Type 002 but instead rely on a conventional system.
 
Beijing-based naval expert Li Jie said Ma had made “a certain advances” in AAG technology, compared with the US.
 
Macau-based military observer Antony Wong Dong said the US AAG engineers had underestimated the difficulty of developing the technology and China may have been able to take note of this to make progress.
 
“Ma’s team .... may have learned lessons from their US counterparts, and made some breakthrough on AAG development,” Wong said.

 

 
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I cannot believe the Chinese actually have implemented an AAC (airborne aircraft carrier). I actually don't believe they have. And if they have they are way too vulnerable now.

 

But gotta firstest with the mostest. Nothing like a flying target the size of an aircraft carrier.

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On 3/16/2017 at 1:50 PM, Randy W said:

 

New aircraft launching systems - no, not the "ski jump". In the SCMP. Seems like their "news" is jumping the gun a little bit, but here it is:

 

 

China’s jet launch system for next carrier ‘better than US design’, top military engineer claims

 

 

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“The Gerald Ford cancelled its AAG and reverted to its original [arresting wire] system. We have no such problem,” he said, referring to the US’ new class of aircraft carrier.
 
He also said China’s electromagnetic aircraft launch system (EMALS) was more advanced than comparable US technology.

 

“We have long overcome [all technical difficulties in EMALS]. I have ­already moved on from this [area of research and development],” he said.
 
Saying he was just a scientific researcher, Ma declined to say when his advanced technologies would be installed on China’s homegrown carriers.
 
. . .
 
An earlier report by the South China Morning Postsaid China would not adopt the highly ­advanced EMALS technology on the Type 002 but instead rely on a conventional system.
 
Beijing-based naval expert Li Jie said Ma had made “a certain advances” in AAG technology, compared with the US.
 
Macau-based military observer Antony Wong Dong said the US AAG engineers had underestimated the difficulty of developing the technology and China may have been able to take note of this to make progress.
 
“Ma’s team .... may have learned lessons from their US counterparts, and made some breakthrough on AAG development,” Wong said.

 

 

 

 

 

Looks like the new one has the ski jump . . . in the SCMP

 

10 things you should know about China’s first home-built aircraft carrier

 

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Construction work underway on China’s first home-built aircraft carrier in Dalian. Photo: Handout

 

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China’s first domestically built aircraft carrier, the Type 001A, is near the final stages of construction. Military sources have suggested that the ship may be launched as early as April 23, the anniversary of the foundation of the PLA Navy.

 

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China’s first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, was bought from Ukraine in 1998. This will be the nation’s first domestically-built carrier. China will become the seventh country with the capability to build its own carriers aircraft after the US, Russia, Britain, France, Italy and Spain.

 

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The Type 001A looks similar to the Liaoning, but military experts said its layout, equipment and overall operational concept were advanced, including a bigger hangar to carry more J-15 fighter jets and more space on deck for helicopters and other aircraft.

 

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It will take a couple of years for the newest carrier to enter full service after its launch, including two to three years to train carrier-based pilots and training with other ships to form a carrier group. Military experts have suggested the carrier will fully join the PLA Navy in about 2020.

 

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I think the Chinese people will go uuuu and ahhhhh and think the carrier fleet is growing and a big threat to the South China sea. Let them think that.

 

Just the fact that they are flying the J-15 puts them years behind anything we have. It is not going to be able to fight in short tactical situations. The wings under the pilot on the fuselage says it all. They are put there when a plane is too destabilized to fly without them. And then they become a hazard to the plane itself. More time on the wind tunnel might help.

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Shared sea cruise with US and Russian craft? In the SCMP -

 

Oops! Chinese defence ministry’s PLA poster a big Photoshop fail

 

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It pictured the carrier sailing the ocean waves with a flotilla and under a bright blue sky, declaring: “Happy birthday, People’s Liberation Army Navy!”
 
But online commenters were quick to point out that instead of a Chinese jet crowning the vessel’s deck, the poster showed a Russian MiG-35 fighter aircraft.

 

On top of that, three jets pictured shooting off into the glorious skies were J-10 aircraft used by the country’s land-based forces – not the J-15s designated as carrier-based aircraft.
 
The errors were compounded by the decision to cut and paste in two ships sailing alongside the Liaoning – those vessels are US amphibious assault ships, not Chinese vessels.

 

 

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Randy, pardon if you published (sure you have) but in case not:

 

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/1995729/fatal-crash-chinese-j-15-carrier-jet-puts-question-mark

 

 

Some military observer suggested that the People’s Liberation Army might reconsider its commitment to the J-15, but Wong said he thought the reverse might be the case. “As there is no alternative in sight, I think the Chinese military will not abandon its plan but be forced to go on building J-15s,” Wong said.

The state radio report said Zhang, a 29-year-old Hunan native, had just been promoted as a full battalion ranking lieutenant commander this month.

The defence ministry said late last year that it was building its second aircraft carrier, the first to be made in China.It would adopt the same ski-jump take-off design that analysts said would suit J-15 jets. Analysts had expected the carrier to be ready for use by 2020.


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Randy, pardon if you published (sure you have) but in case not:

 

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/1995729/fatal-crash-chinese-j-15-carrier-jet-puts-question-mark

 

 

Some military observer suggested that the People’s Liberation Army might reconsider its commitment to the J-15, but Wong said he thought the reverse might be the case. “As there is no alternative in sight, I think the Chinese military will not abandon its plan but be forced to go on building J-15s,” Wong said.

The state radio report said Zhang, a 29-year-old Hunan native, had just been promoted as a full battalion ranking lieutenant commander this month.

The defence ministry said late last year that it was building its second aircraft carrier, the first to be made in China.It would adopt the same ski-jump take-off design that analysts said would suit J-15 jets. Analysts had expected the carrier to be ready for use by 2020.

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Yes - back here - http://candleforlove.com/forums/topic/45599-china-on-the-south-china-seas/?p=629085

 

One more time can't hurt

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A word from Xinhua and the Global Times

 

Commentary: Time for West to discard mindset of "China threat"

 

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In history, the rise of big powers was realized via expansion and aggression. But today, the rise of China is an exception. It is peaceful.
 
Unfortunately, the West never abandons its illusion about the so-called threat from China and sticks to its prejudice against China's moves of benign intention.

 

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However, the move was viewed by some Western observers as a "display of power" and an effort to "get China in the aircraft carrier game." Some media reports even compared the Chinese carrier with its U.S. peers.
 
On the contrary, for China, a country which strictly abides by a national defense policy that is defensive in nature, it has no intentions to project its military might to deter any country within the region and globally.
 
China has no interest in joining any "aircraft carrier game," either, because an arms race, as history has proven, will only bring the world to the brink of war.
 
China's military buildup is primarily aimed at defending its national sovereignty, territorial integrity and growing overseas interests.

 

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There are more similar examples of misinterpretation and even distortions.
 
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Those who assume China will deviate from its path of peaceful development and adopt an expansionist strategy are simply wrong.
 
It is advisable that the West discard its old-fashioned mindset of "China threat," as China's peaceful rise needs not only its own efforts but also a friendly external environemnt that facilitates coordination and cooperation from other countries. Enditem

 

 

 

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I thought I had seen it somewhere - the name of the new carrier is the Shandong - in the SCMP

 

CHINA’S AIRCRAFT CARRIER IMPRESSES, BUT PLA CORRUPTION IS A BIGGER BATTLE

 

China is now the seventh country with the capability to build its own aircraft carrier, along with the US, Russia, Britain, France, Italy and Spain, after Wednesday’s unveiling of the home-made Shandong. With two aircraft carriers – the Shandong is set to become operational by 2020 – and a few more under construction, China will soon dwarf all its regional rivals – Japan, India and the self-ruled Taiwan – in naval strength.

 

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in the SCMP

 

Envoys for China and the Philippines discuss ‘sensitive issues’ relating to South China Sea

 

China and the Philippines held their first bilateral talks over the South China Sea on Friday but announced little progress aside from an agreement to meet again before the end of the year.
The talks came as Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte said in Manila his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping had warned him on Monday there would be war if Manila tried to enforce an arbitration ruling and drill for oil in a disputed part of the sea.

 

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Duterte said on Friday he discussed the South China Sea issue with Xi when the two met and got a firm, but friendly warning.
“We intend to drill oil there, if it’s yours, well, that’s your view, but my view is, I can drill the oil, if there is some inside the bowels of the earth because it is ours,” Duterte said in a speech, recalling his conversation with Xi.
“His response to me, ‘we’re friends, we don’t want to quarrel with you, we want to maintain the presence of warm relationship, but if you force the issue, we’ll go to war.”
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