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Interesting twist on the 14th amendment and anchor babies. Controversial but perfectly legal, and in a way does put some money into the local economy.

 

Birth tourists flocking to US for instant citizenship

A growing number of Chinese birth tourists are flocking to the United States with no intention of staying. The wealthy mothers-to-be give birth in the U.S. so their newborns automatically become American citizens, and then fly back to their home country, babies in tow. The practice has sparked controversy from suburbia to Capitol Hill.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/rock-center/51110608#51110720 (NBC Video)

 

 

http://youtu.be/sSbub3K9f_M

 

http://youtu.be/PQOIPuvN300

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On the plus side tax payers don't spend any money on their k thru 12 education. One misconception about so called anchor babies is the parents don't get a free pass. They can still be deported It's their choice if the child stays or deports with them.

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Basically this is how Bruce Lee became a citizen, his parents were visiting and he was born in the states.

 

And in the reported case the mother and child return to China, which is fine by me, the parent is not really abusing the system as a way to remain in the states after child is born.

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Here's another twist that the media doesn't know about...

 

 

My Leiqin is in Chongqing China right now. She left Thursday and her round trip flight was paid for... first class from LA to Chongqing. Plus, she was paid $1000 to take care of and travel with a newborn Amerasian baby on the one-way portion from LA to Chongqing. The baby's father accompanied her.

There's a market for American surrogate mothers. The couple who are paying Leiqin cannot have children of their own and there are agencies who cater to these infertile Chinese couples who seek to have an Amerasian baby.

I have seen catalogs of young, twenty-something, America women who are potential in-vitro mothers (all captions were in Chinese). A blue-eyed blond can fetch up to $250,000.

These agencies match infertile couples up with a Caucasian woman of child-bearing age. The Shainghai boss of this particular baby home says this (designer Amerasian business - my words) is big not just with infertile couples, but with couples where the wife doesn't want to bear children and the prestige of having an Amerasian baby is worth the price.

While Leiqin's in China, she'll stay three weeks visiting her family. She says this is a business that she may be doing more often albeit with less time spent visiting and more time flying back and forth... time will tell.

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Basically this is how Bruce Lee became a citizen, his parents were visiting and he was born in the states.

 

And in the reported case the mother and child return to China, which is fine by me, the parent is not really abusing the system as a way to remain in the states after child is born.

There was a bit of uproar over Yao Ming and his Chinese wife's decision to have their child born in the US.

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I wonder how it works on the other end???

 

What do the parents have to do to continue the baby's visa status in China? Are there any cases of China refusing a visa extension after a certain length of time? I suspect they wouldn't do that, because it would mean breaking up a family, but I guess you never can predict that sort of thing. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out in the future. Seems okay to me as the parents are contributing to the economy in a big way by spending money here and, at least technically, they are not doing anything illegal. Still, many, like the Congressman, will view it as conning the system. Stay tuned.....

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I wonder how it works on the other end???

 

What do the parents have to do to continue the baby's visa status in China? Are there any cases of China refusing a visa extension after a certain length of time? I suspect they wouldn't do that, because it would mean breaking up a family, but I guess you never can predict that sort of thing. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out in the future. Seems okay to me as the parents are contributing to the economy in a big way by spending money here and, at least technically, they are not doing anything illegal. Still, many, like the Congressman, will view it as conning the system. Stay tuned.....

 

 

That's exactly where I am now (except at a much more advanced age). The visas aren't extended - you get a new one each year at the PSB (no border runs are required). After 5 years, you are eligible for a Chinese "green" card. But the baby may get a better deal.

 

Then again, China considers the baby a Chinese citizen, so I doubt there would be a problem with claiming that citizenship, along with the family's hukou. I've heard that British citizens (at birth) have been required to formally relinquish their British citizenship. But for Americans, even that would not be a problem - they can reclaim their citizenship at any time.

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I wonder how it works on the other end???

 

What do the parents have to do to continue the baby's visa status in China? Are there any cases of China refusing a visa extension after a certain length of time? I suspect they wouldn't do that, because it would mean breaking up a family, but I guess you never can predict that sort of thing. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out in the future. Seems okay to me as the parents are contributing to the economy in a big way by spending money here and, at least technically, they are not doing anything illegal. Still, many, like the Congressman, will view it as conning the system. Stay tuned.....

 

 

That's exactly where I am now (except at a much more advanced age). The visas aren't extended - you get a new one each year at the PSB (no border runs are required). After 5 years, you are eligible for a Chinese "green" card. But the baby may get a better deal.

 

Then again, China considers the baby a Chinese citizen, so I doubt there would be a problem with claiming that citizenship, along with the family's hukou. I've heard that British citizens (at birth) have been required to formally relinquish their British citizenship. But for Americans, even that would not be a problem - they can reclaim their citizenship at any time.

Let me see if I have this straight, Randy: A baby is a U.S. Citizen, then the parents take the child to China. They can have the child declared a Chinese citizen, but will need to renounce the American citizenship. Later, it they want the child to be a U.S. citizen, they can reclaim the U.S. citizenship and renounce the Chinese? That sounds like a pretty good deal.

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Here's another twist that the media doesn't know about...

 

 

My Leiqin is in Chongqing China right now. She left Thursday and her round trip flight was paid for... first class from LA to Chongqing. Plus, she was paid $1000 to take care of and travel with a newborn Amerasian baby on the one-way portion from LA to Chongqing. The baby's father accompanied her.

There's a market for American surrogate mothers. The couple who are paying Leiqin cannot have children of their own and there are agencies who cater to these infertile Chinese couples who seek to have an Amerasian baby.

I have seen catalogs of young, twenty-something, America women who are potential in-vitro mothers (all captions were in Chinese). A blue-eyed blond can fetch up to $250,000.

These agencies match infertile couples up with a Caucasian woman of child-bearing age. The Shainghai boss of this particular baby home says this (designer Amerasian business - my words) is big not just with infertile couples, but with couples where the wife doesn't want to bear children and the prestige of having an Amerasian baby is worth the price.

While Leiqin's in China, she'll stay three weeks visiting her family. She says this is a business that she may be doing more often albeit with less time spent visiting and more time flying back and forth... time will tell.

Dennis, who is the father if blue eyed blond? Do you mean the father is the Chinese husband in some cases, and the American girl, it is her egg? I guess any combination, but just curious if you could expand more.

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Here's another twist that the media doesn't know about...

 

 

My Leiqin is in Chongqing China right now. She left Thursday and her round trip flight was paid for... first class from LA to Chongqing. Plus, she was paid $1000 to take care of and travel with a newborn Amerasian baby on the one-way portion from LA to Chongqing. The baby's father accompanied her.

There's a market for American surrogate mothers. The couple who are paying Leiqin cannot have children of their own and there are agencies who cater to these infertile Chinese couples who seek to have an Amerasian baby.

I have seen catalogs of young, twenty-something, America women who are potential in-vitro mothers (all captions were in Chinese). A blue-eyed blond can fetch up to $250,000.

These agencies match infertile couples up with a Caucasian woman of child-bearing age. The Shainghai boss of this particular baby home says this (designer Amerasian business - my words) is big not just with infertile couples, but with couples where the wife doesn't want to bear children and the prestige of having an Amerasian baby is worth the price.

While Leiqin's in China, she'll stay three weeks visiting her family. She says this is a business that she may be doing more often albeit with less time spent visiting and more time flying back and forth... time will tell.

Dennis, who is the father if blue eyed blond? Do you mean the father is the Chinese husband in some cases, and the American girl, it is her egg? I guess any combination, but just curious if you could expand more.

Doug, AmerAsian refers to a child that is of mixed Asian and American race. For example if you and your lady had a child, it would be an AmerAsian.

 

In this case, Asian males are looking for an American woman to fertilize in-vitro. I have wondered about the opposite, if the Asian male were infertile would the Asian wife consider... never mind.

 

I don't know how big this is or may become or if it's an isolated phenomenon. I can say that when Leiqin asked if I cared if she took the offer to go to China paid for plus be paid $1000 to care for the 5-week old baby, I knew we couldn't turn it down.

 

The newborn child and the surrogate mother stayed the obligatory 30 days at the baby home here in LA where I met the lao ban (boss) of the baby home. He showed me a folder filled with 8"x10" glossy photos of youngish, attractive American women whom he said were potential surrogates. My take and guess is that many of these girls may be college students... looking to fund college or pay off a student loan?

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I wonder how it works on the other end???

 

What do the parents have to do to continue the baby's visa status in China? Are there any cases of China refusing a visa extension after a certain length of time? I suspect they wouldn't do that, because it would mean breaking up a family, but I guess you never can predict that sort of thing. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out in the future. Seems okay to me as the parents are contributing to the economy in a big way by spending money here and, at least technically, they are not doing anything illegal. Still, many, like the Congressman, will view it as conning the system. Stay tuned.....

 

 

That's exactly where I am now (except at a much more advanced age). The visas aren't extended - you get a new one each year at the PSB (no border runs are required). After 5 years, you are eligible for a Chinese "green" card. But the baby may get a better deal.

 

Then again, China considers the baby a Chinese citizen, so I doubt there would be a problem with claiming that citizenship, along with the family's hukou. I've heard that British citizens (at birth) have been required to formally relinquish their British citizenship. But for Americans, even that would not be a problem - they can reclaim their citizenship at any time.

Let me see if I have this straight, Randy: A baby is a U.S. Citizen, then the parents take the child to China. They can have the child declared a Chinese citizen, but will need to renounce the American citizenship. Later, it they want the child to be a U.S. citizen, they can reclaim the U.S. citizenship and renounce the Chinese? That sounds like a pretty good deal.

 

Yes, that's pretty much it - that's not considering any possible single-child law violation. But having the child in a foreign country may help even there.

 

They may not even need to renounce the American citizenship.

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  • 11 months later...

An interesting twist on this topic.

 

CCTV host Chai Jing called a 'traitor', 'hypocrite' for giving birth in US

 

After pictures surfaced online showing the famous CCTV host Chai Jing holding a newborn baby at an airport, reports began to emerge that the anchor, sometimes referred to as 'the Chinese liberals' goddess' gave birth to a daughter in October 2013 in the US.

 

Chai gained celebrity as a journalist for her investigative pieces covering the SARS outbreak, the Sichuan earthquake, and various coal mine accidents across the country. A speech she gave at the 2009 Beijing Journalists Association resonated with citizens who consider her an outspoken, 'fearless and on-the-ground reporter', and concluded: “A country is built upon individuals; she is constructed and determined by them. It is only if a country has people who…build but do not take advantage of the land.”

 

Her choice to give birth in the US has been seen by netizens as a contradiction to what she advocates—thus why some have taken to the web to call her out as being a "traitor" and a "hypocrite", Offbeat China reports.

 

MORE:

http://shanghaiist.com/2014/02/21/cctv-host-chai-jing-called-traitor.php

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  • 3 years later...

A recent crackdown reported.

'Maternity tourism' raids target California operations catering to Chinese

 

I don't think the original intent of the 14th amendment was birth tourism, it was to give citizenship to freed slaves that were born in the states. Only two developed countries in the world allow for birthright citizenship, the US and Canada, all others don't, they defer citizenship to that of the parents. I have no issues with birthright in cases where at least one parent is a permanent resident or US Citizen.

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  • 9 months later...

visa-free birth tourism! in the WSJ

 

Women looking to give birth to U.S. citizens have found a loophole in the Pacific on the island of Saipan

 

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The Northern Marianas, an island chain that includes Saipan, is the only U.S. soil that Chinese can visit without a visa, after a change in immigration policy in 2009 allowed Chinese and Russian tourists visa-free entry for up to 45 days.
“It’s just like if God opened a window for you,” said a Chinese father who works as a translator here after coming a few years ago to ensure his child would be born American.
The Northern Marianas pressed for the visa waiver to support an economy reliant on tourism, notably to Saipan’s casinos and gambling parlors. The number of Chinese visitors has risen substantially since 2009 and now represents 36% of tourists to the island, which is four to five hours’ flight from Shanghai and Guangzhou. Tourism accounts for 72% of Saipan’s economy.

 

 

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Birth tourism has almost completely dried up here in SoCal. However, maternity homes are still thriving due to the tradition of zuo yue zi or "sitting the month" for new Chinese mothers who are here legally.

 

Living here in SoCal among Chinese and my wife having worked in many, many of those birthing homes over the past several years, she's seen the best and the worst. Although she has not worked outside the home for quite a while, she still keeps in contact with many women who have worked and still work in those homes.

 

Stopping or slowing down birth tourism was probably a good thing. 14th amendment debate aside, many birthing homes were not up to health standards and where simply set up wherever and whenever someone's home could squeeze beds into various rooms all to cash in on birth tourism and all at the expense of unsuspecting pregnant women who were now trapped in sub-standard living condtions, condtions that those glossy ads back home never mentioned.

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