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On behalf of Randy and Don, and the rest of the crew who helped me through 3 years of utter torment, I will send in something as soon as I stop traveling. Give or take a few more days.

 

And thanks for being there......

 

Allon (aka Eric)

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  • 5 years later...

Bumping this topic...

You all may have noticed the forum upgrade and the downtime this past fall, in order to get our site back up and on line we had to purchase a new version of software and a recurring license.

Any donation to the kitty is greatly appreciated.

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8 hours ago, dnoblett said:

Bumping this topic...

You all may have noticed the forum upgrade and the downtime this past fall, in order to get our site back up and on line we had to purchase a new version of software and a recurring license.

Any donation to the kitty is greatly appreciated.

Can you please let us know how much money is needed and when over the next year?

My understanding is that the cash needs are fairly minimal.

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On 1/8/2013 at 1:53 AM, warpedbored said:

I asked Don once why we stick with IPB. CFL has been around for 10 years. We would likely lose a lot of stuff if we tried to port it all over to different software.

A lot longer than 10 years. I have been married for 10 years. This website helped me a lot in the beginning. I stayed married because I got tired of the divorces. Big fight again. Over stuff I inherited before we got married. 

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13 hours ago, Dan777 said:

A lot longer than 10 years. I have been married for 10 years. This website helped me a lot in the beginning. I stayed married because I got tired of the divorces. Big fight again. Over stuff I inherited before we got married. 

The 10 years Carl mentioned was actually 10 years and 2 months at the time that post was made. We're now approaching 20 years.

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BTW this site must have passed it's 20th anniversary recently? What was the official date? 

If any cash needs (or other needs) arise to keep this going, please let me know, I'd be happy to help. I think it's important CFL stays up, even after the loss that occurred some years ago, there's too much valuable info on here.

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1 hour ago, Barfus said:

BTW this site must have passed it's 20th anniversary recently? What was the official date? 

If any cash needs (or other needs) arise to keep this going, please let me know, I'd be happy to help. I think it's important CFL stays up, even after the loss that occurred some years ago, there's too much valuable info on here.

We don't have the posts prior to #12 (in the Call to DOS topic) anymore. But I believe it was just a couple of days prior to that (Nov. 27, 2002) that PJ made post # 1.

Dan pays the bills every month, but hasn't shared anything with me about where that stands. We apparently have enough coming in to cover it.

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A list of all topics still around from Nov. 2002 through Jan. 2003. You can search for the topic name on the Search page (http://candleforlove.com/forums/search/) - select content titles only, and put the topic title in quotes for the search string.

7    Call to DOS
11    Thanks for 001 Chinese forum link
12    Help with site
14    Happenings in China
17    Chinese Characters accurate?
29    Announcement: Polls and Surveys
32    Please be sure your bookmarks are up to date
34    Anyone from Guangzhou?
35    Anyone in Changsha
37    Sad Thanksgiving Day
38    anyone from Shenyang
42    talk with the projct manager from the russia group
43    Would anyone be willing to help me translate?
45    Atlanta Journal Constitution article
46    Announcement: Added Main page and amended Policy
48    Why the login problem
49    I want to help!
50    Our Story
65    Press Kit under "Our Voices"
66    Announcement: Main page in Simplified Chinese
67    I am With you here Now
70    IMPORTANT Announcement: Press Kit
73    calling Powells office today
74    MY call to CA at 6:45am
75    Powell's phone # 202-647-5291
76    If they did not tell me a lie         ???
77    Can Someone confirm what I was told?
80    Congtats all!!! great news!
84    No visa for my fiancee, either
86    China Name Checks
88    Tekkie Question to CFL admin
89    Russia
90    Phone number for GZ
91    the letter from GZ this morning
95    Just got off the phone with Guangzhou
99    Called DOS..
101    When you call the normal phone line to DOS
102    Proposed Group Letter to Powell
104    Well. I think it's official..
106    To yuleung
108    Atlanta Journal Constitution article
110    For all who have already interviewed
112    About those D0S calls..
113    China Visa application...DoS explaination
116    Another teekkie question
118    poster maniac..damn...LOL
120    Visa Delay on Chineseworld.com
122    Once the visa is ready...
127    I got the interview!!
129    From G7 Russia
130    A recommendation
134    For Shanghai dudes/dudettes only...
136    Title themes
137    i've posted all night long dammit
139    go to sleep peacefully now..
141    Rumors seem to be true for once.
143    Request for assistance
144    Tourist Visa Myth Dispelled
145    Visadelays.com Update
146    Interview With the Boston Globe
147    Letter to Powell?????
151    A ( useful ) idea
152    a call to DOS
153    From G7-C...
154    Top 10 reasons..
155    GUZ is really working overtime this weekend.....
157    Who was responsible for visa delays
159    National Visa Center
160    Happy Days
161    K-3 Visa/IR-1 Visa
162    Calling China
165    I751 Application to Remove Conditional residential
166    Language Question
167    07-Dec-41
168    Where are people from?
169    Boston Globe Article 12/6/02
172    Keep this site going after this mess is all over!
173    Today is the big day!!!
174    Announcement: Site maintenance
177    God news guys
180    concerns Shanghai passports
181    Visa Cleared by US State Department
182    FIFO it is..it seems
183    Top 10 excuses for looong namechecks
184    LiNing's Visa Approved!!!
186    Checked 8, one cleared= Zhao, Fen -Intv.date 8/14
188    The real reasons why China comes last..
189    A visa in hand is worth ten in the DOS computer!!!
190    let's put things in prospective
191    I shall rest my case now..
192    Translation help
193    OK people.. Let's get Real
194    is my avatar to aggressive??
198    Called the DOS this morning
202    Phone call to GuangZhou
204    Ok I'm confused - pls help!
205    How long does it take for DOS to contact GZ?
207    ETIM
209    Party in Shanghai on this Saturday....
212    EMS letters.. Top 10..Expect delays
213    a girl got the EMS from GZ this morning
219    P3 received 12-11-2002
220    Bob's Fiance`e-Lily got the EMS this afternoon
221    Hey JMs, read it to know your men well..
224    RECEIVED LETTER FROM GZ!!!!
225    Namecheck Cleared...
226    New News From GZ
228    XiuJie Xing 12/6 cleared - 9 still pending
229    Solve some puzzle for me please!!!!
230    Congratulations to all
232    Only 2 visa pick up days ?
233    10 reasons you need to go pick her up..
234    10 signs you have no real life..
237    I think James has an atitude
238    secret meeting
241    How are visa issued
243    Name Check
244    name check?
246    CR-1's who and where are you!!!!!
247    Visa Approved and granted
248    Candle for Love site
250    Newspaper Interview
251    Bringing Money into the US
253    EMS Tracking?
254    any one call DOS today?
255    My Interview  With CNN
257    visa case number
261    what can be done?
263    Preach what is practiced
266    Members of Shenzhen club on board?
268    visa fee
270    phone numbers
271    Deleted topic "The latest excuse"
272    Still on hold
273    Talked with Consular Affairs
274    Went to INS today for info
275    dos received only 500 over 5100 name from GZ
278    Looking For People From Guangzhou Area
279    news for Aug interviewor
280    Stomping Mad!!!
281    Any help from your Congressman or Senator??
282    Checked 35-No clearance today - Called at 4:30PM
283    +++Honorary Candle Forum Counselor+++
284    Top 10 : Why China
285    Party in Shanghai
288    Dosen't Anyone Sleep Anymore
289    Anyone Travel To GZ Next Monday ?
290    Where is the Powell Letter response?
293    Owen/Chunxia story (long version)
294    Nuther newbie
297    THe numbers don't add up
298    Response Received to our Powell letter
299    People in China knows about these delays?
300    On to Plan F
301    Another letter to Powell and Harty
302    Documents validity
304    Anyone has Maura Harty's email?
305    How long have you been waiting?
306    Response from Laura Yet?
307    Typical bumbling
308    Shenyang, Liaoning support group
309    Anyone in Guangzhou
310    Real "Wait time " Zero hour
312    Member list use
315    New fee
316    What is CR-1 VISA?
319    Sandy Yues Birthday
320    To visadelays.com team
321    Tech support question
322    Laura Bush Letter
323    Top ten: We know they are working hard
324    Made such good friends here
330    Anyone notice a blip this evening?!
331    Letter to Sara Rimensnyder
332    New Letter will be posted Monday
333    Crunch time?
335    I don't see more good new coming...
338    phone calls and new procedures
339    New people first?
340    Called CA
341    Jenney61 needs some help
343    Airline Tickets From China???
344    Distributed Photo Album
345    Name checked passed
346    Still no visa
347    Follow-up to ...
348    A letter to Judical watch team
349    Going to Shanghai, in January
350    Our story
351    Illegal immigrants
352    10 More Reasons To Fly Home With the
353    Someone Please Help
354    New news from DOS !
355    A meeting with Powell/Harty
357    Here is the New Letter to DoS
359    Calling CA at State
363    For those who are flying during the holidays
364    Who's on first?
365    Harty
367    rumors about another batch of clearances have been
368    Chinese TV
370    On-line checks issue
371    Pray For Staff In US Consulate GZ
373    Candle Tech Tips
380    Printing.. Printing..Printing..
381    Top 10: It ain't that bad kid.
382    Anyone need Moura Harty's email?
383    July-September bunch
384    A K odyssey....
385    I Miss my sweetie
386    Phone problems calling GZ
389    Point of Entry--Can you go through
390    Letter Has Been Sent
391    Waiting for packet 4
392    Photo Album Application
393    Check your visa
396    Press Kit Outline
397    Press Kit Cover Letter - Draft
398    Press Kit Fact Sheet - Draft
400    Press Kit Personal Stories - Draft
401    Announcement - Press Kit
403    Photo Album
404    Pictures suggestion
405    CA Letter
406    Top 10: August "mishap"
407    I Love You
408    Names in China
409    Obtaining information about name check
410    Any news from CA, DOS?
411    CNN Newscast
415    Tough questons: I-134 for a student
417    So quiet today here
419    Real Chinese Food
420    The August Fiasco
421    Visit to Texas Congressional Delegation
422    Top 10: Signs your visa is coming
423    Called GZ again yesterday
424    Get-together in Guangzhou
425    The "Forgotten Bunch" Letter
427    Prevent Identity Theft
428    Do you believe the 5000 + 1000 case back to GZ?
429    love you guys
431    question on medical clearance
433    anyone else is calling DOS now?
434    the DOS and CA's computer broke
436    For your own protection ...
438    December 21, 2002, Visa Pickup for
441    "Forgotten Bunch Letter"  IMPORTANT!!
443    200 More Visas Issued in GZ-12/21/02
445    Need Help
446    Merry Xmas to you guys
447    1k visas?
448    Message from Santa Claus
449    Relocating to the US
450    S.O.S. for the Forgotten Bunch
451    got the EMS this afternoon...:)
452    guang zhou should update website
455    Reply  to Powell letter
457    Another letter to Maura Harty
458    Lost:  Thousands of Years
459    More names?
460    Introduction and Story
461    august visas being issued
462    yeees ! Saturday night Top 10
463    Another lie, or "for business use only"?
464    Outside the Cone of Silence - Long Post!
465    EMS THIS MORNING!
466    North Pole press relase
467    Our stories
468    What is the next step?
470    New Smileys
473    Any funny stories?
474    July-September group letter
477    Top 10: Why Santa will get a visa dec 24
479    Balance in an unbalanced world.
480    Any response from the Bushes?
481    Elves freed!
485    christmas wish for santa
486    My Chrisatmas heart broken
487    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
488    A meeting with Belsnickel
489    What do the abbreviations mean?
490    no visa yet, but a plane ticket
491    Top10: Signs UA will make it....
492    Juk nei seng dan fai lok!!
493    SAnta called me...
494    Xmas Eve
495    slow guang zhou e-mail
496    Problems for Santa
499    Response Received to our Harty letter
503    Christmas Blues
504    All packed !!
505    It's all relative...
507    Articles
508    XMAS EVE GROUP HUG !
509    Rules, rules and more rules
511    taking a break..
512    Teaching in China
517    Because She's Smarter Than I
521    jameshoffman269 (Jim)
523    WAIT TILL YOU HEAR THE LATEST FROM GZ!!!!!
524    ATTENTION ALL AUGUST WAITERS !
527    Please Email me with your info August only
530    1st draft
532    Talked to GZ consulate - Clayton Hayes
534    Either lying or incompetent
535    New message to Powell
536    called DOS today
537    July 22nd
539    Final draft to Harty's office
540    Confused confused confused
541    Correct Spelling:  Clayton Hays (and other info)
542    CNN is a idiot
544    greetings from Beijing
547    Apology
548    Immigration lawyers
549    Truncated Messages to GZ?
550    Non-Clearance causing relationship breakdown
551    GZ for the holiday?
552    Hints and tips for GZ
554    THE HARTY LETTER - AN ALTERNATIVE VERSION
555    All Texas August waiters please contact me!!!!
556    Almost done Draft
557    Another Powell Letter
559    Final draft to Harty's office
560    Ten Blue Thingie Celebration
561    Todays Culture Lesson
562    Relationship strain of Visa delays
564    G7 Censorship
565    Where is enight????
566    On Learning Chinese
567    China Frees Dissident Xu Wenli
568    Please do not open any attachments from me
569    I just called Guang-Zhou
570    More letters to Congressmen & Senators
571    Powell Letter.
572    Wishful thinking: An alternative theory
573    New from G7
574    Powell & Harty Letter.
575    August Interview People
576    Question about letters
577    Learning Chinese
578    Candle Site Administration
579    Chinese word processing
580    Jumping the gun?
581    What can i do since GUZ didnt resubmit my case?
582    My New Job
583    Need your opinion!
584    forward your GZ and/or DOS e-mails to me
585    Class Action Lawsuit against DOS
586    Phone, FAX, Email, Mail
587    Beijing summit
588    Finally got through to DOS
593    Job openings in China
595    Duh!
596    TO : mark , Eric, James..
597    question on namechecks
598    We all need to send a letter!
600    LiNing is Here!
602    Keep after them!
603    Another SOLO Letter
604    CALL - EMAIL - FAX - EVERYDAY ALL DAY
605    Happy new year!
606    GZIV phone, fax and e-mail info
607    GROUP LETTERS AND SIGNATORIES
608    happy new  year to all
609    PLEASE SEND LETTER TO CONSUL GENERAL NORRIS VIA FE
610    The New Year's Wishes
611    Going to Guangzhou in Person
612    A Story of Young Love
613    Contacts for DOS
614    i had my interview on dec 30th
616    Faxes and Repeated E-Mails
617    re: Faxes/Repeated emails
618    In the News
619    Re: Powell Letter Going out on January, 2
620    This'll make your blood boil
622    New Group Letter to DoS Being Planned
623    IS GZ even aware of the phone problem?
624    At least GZ is back to work today!
625    An offer from Richard Adams
628    Why I'm not worried about the early visas...
629    Please do not post individuals' contact info
631    Message from Maura Harty
632    Please re-read these letters
633    CNN Story to be shown tonight!!
634    Better than chatting on line...
635    Second reply from Maura A. Harty
649    To Mr. Cliff J. Larson
650    Top Ten Reasons For This Forum!!!!!
652    Just saw CNN Story
654    this morning I dreamed...
657    I feel so bad
659    thanks
661    LETTERMAN
662    CNN Segment: My thoughts
663    New  e-mail address at Guangzhou Consulate
664    Complete List of how to get in toucg with GZ Consu
665    Grants to religious groups to advance marriage
666    Mexico!  Arriba!
667    called DOS 1/3/03
668    GZ Overtime
669    Write a thanks letter to CNN
670    I have more than Jim now :P :P :P
672    Great news bit by CNN !!!!!
673    Owen: Where are You?
674    CNN Report - Transcribed
675    Technical assistance
676    Information Sharing
677    CNN Report on Family Visa Delays - Transcribed
678    Plane Tickets
679    OHIO STATE BEATS MAIMI
680    A Question....
681    consulate affairs call
682    Photo Album
683    CNN Interview Available
684    Thought of the day
685    CNN Video in AVI format
686    Background check completed & EMS letter?
687    Visas being issued to Malaysians
688    I Recieved A Fax Today
689    Time off to travel to China
690    Anyone flying Chicago to Beijing on Jan 23
691    Gifts for Chinese Inlaws
692    Another letter postponed
693    Traffic in China - Part II
694    Finding Love in the Middle Kingdom
695    GG & MM??
696    Going to Shanghai 1/29/03..
698    cigarette custom in China
699    Airlines Give Data on Americans Going Overseas
700    GZ same as always
701    GZ consulate email
702    Finding my Congressmen
703    Group letter question
704    question on namechecks
706    Latest from DOS
708    Anyone was able to reach DOS at 2026631225 this AM
709    Candle name change
710    January 4 has come and gone?
711    Mark.  hear from Harty?
712    EMS rec'd on 12/25..but not mine :(
713    Harty fax is true
714    Promises Kept and Broken
715    Harty's email address
716    Officers not on Post
717    usavisa@state.gov -- useless address
718    If you want something done
719    New UserID
720    My latest DOS-CA info line mishap!
721    EMS Question
722    Meeting with Harty
723    GZ e-mail reply
724    Guys, I need a sugestion.
725    Decipher this if you can
726    Back from Beijing
727    Identity Crisis?
728    Reply from M. Harty to the 12/23 fax
729    Top 10: Reasons NOT to go to the great Wall
730    Top10: Why K-girls ought to get a grip..
732    a letter to Harty from 001 JMs
733    GUZ e-mail
734    Called DOS 1/7/03, case cleared
735    name check cleared..letter sent..Aug interv
737    What the @$@#???
738    yeeehaaaaa
739    Top10: Reasons our girls might get their visas
740    Thank God for The Nice Lady
741    what's name check for?
742    Requesting a Resubmit
743    For the Cat lovers
744    Finally, results!
745    Candle Site Additions
746    Welcome!
747    Random thoughts on freedom
748    New main page verbiage
749    New Main page verbiage
750    Welcome!
751    Ah, now I see.
752    Question for the teachers in the group
753    A New Theory with Tongue in Cheek
754    dos phone calls
755    Got reply from GZ today
756    DOS computers down at 5:45am PDT on 1-8-03
757    Intent to Marry?
758    My Girl Has Her Clearence
759    Rules for dealing with the visa process
760    Cleared name checks.
761    Senators call today
762    Finally so happy
763    Call to action
764    Candle Real-time Chat
765    Candle Real-time Chat
766    Resubmitted on Jan 04
767    Best news in a long long while (at least for me)
768    Onesuite is only 3.9 cents a minute
769    Group Letter to Maura Harty
770    Cleared name checks
771    Top10: Signs we really all need those visas
772    Group letter to Maura Harty
773    anybody got through DOS these days?
774    Simplified Chinese Translation for the Main Page
775    important statistics
776    A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse!
777    I have to say
778    90 day namecheck resubmission
780    need help
781    New Intro Page
782    Traditional Chinese
783    WHERE is my 9TH Thinngie????????????
784    GZ 's telephone broke?
785    I got the EMS this afternoon
786    10 Ways to Know You've Lived in China Too Long
788    Name Check re-submition
789    Yeah baby!  P3
790    Did anyone try calling DOS today?
791    question on police reports
792    Spoke to DOS
793    Intro Page - Russian
794    Windows XP
795    My call to CA/DOS
796    Group letter to DOS version 4
797    regarding new main page verbiage
798    Help on Affidavit of Support
799    One suggestion
800    Letter from Visa Unit Chief -L Donahue
801    Question about financees Job
802    Cofusion And Enligtenment
803    I'm just so tired guys
804    How to Get GZ resubmit our case?
805    Random musings
806    Visa pick up process?
807    Submitted on Nov, August Group
808    Transferring Money
809    Cleared and letter sent
810    Intended for Encouragement and Inspiration
811    E-mail from GZ
812    Just talked to Cabral
813    A group of namecheck resubmissions on 1/8
814    The letter to Harty was sent out
815    Group Letter Sent!
816    Candle Real-time Chat Reminder
817    Is posting from another group allowed here?
819    Just so crazy I had to post it
820    Just talked to Cabral
821    Talked to CA/DOS - lucky K1 visas
822    Text of email from Cabral
824    Official information from DOS
825    DOS name check question
826    World's Biggest Lies (off topic)
828    Show of power and coordination to DOS
829    Intro Page - Russian Translation
830    Intro page in Russian
831    oh...Hatrty's email was failed to send!
832    Urgent:  Harty Email
835    Is the "subcription" feature working here?
836    Top10: Signs you are at a bad airport
837    Top10: Features of the Boeing 777
838    Financial dealings in China
839    More reasons my wife doesn't want to fly
841    Praying for results.
842    Someone is in for a lifetime of pain
843    Changing names
844    Candle Chat Feedback
847    I have sent a thank-you card to Sara in DOS
848    Robert, I need ur help
849    This does not compute!!!  Brain overload!!!
850    Emergency Contact Numbers For All Fiances
852    FINALLY
853    Resubmitted on the 13th?
854    Tracking EMS pickup letter
855    ok...I had to call
856    My wife got her "white paper" today
857    Talked to Sara today
858    Money in China
859    Police report
860    Russian Group Letter to Maura Harty
861    Top10: Signs the Chinese New Year is kicking in
863    Free at Last!!!
864    on the road again
865    list of cases resubmitted on Jan 4th
867    dos phone calls
868    2 to 3 weeks..
869    Great news!
870    Need some instructions
871    DOS Letter from Maura Harty
872    Resubmit cleared on Jan. 14
873    the China Man
876    To Owen..
877    Another Chinese New Year Complication
878    P.J !!
879    I got the visa
880    Anyone who has not been resubmitted in Jan?
881    Web Chat philosophies
882    Chinese New Year
883    How many Aug-Sep applicants got EMS or visas?
884    New Asian service boosts exports at Port of Boston
885    Question about the Interview
886    Luggage
888    So What's the Plan Now?
889    can not believe it...today  I have to use
890    Does this mean what I think it means?
891    Adjustment of Status was halted
892    GZ telephone still 'busy'...
893    Visa in hand
894    visa without interview
895    Someone I know was cleared on 1/15
896    Any problems calling mobile phones in China?
897    Diversion poem
898    May go to DC
899    August interviews.
900    Points and Observations
901    off topic but very China related...
902    Good News!
903    today was a good and bad day
904    Dumpling recipe
905    busy the last 2 days...
906    K1 petition is getting stricter
907    Interview day timeline
908    A Nice Evening....then
909    Planes, Trains and Automobiles (And More)
910    Interview Jan. 16th,still White Slip
912    Nov-namecheck still no clearance
913    Called CA
914    Interview date set (Moscow)
915    Interview date set (Moscow)
916    Combined efforts
917    Combined efforts
918    Senate server is down
919    Top10: Signs you have a bad LD company
920    False Alarm...A Cautionary Tale
921    In the Black Hole
922    Scheduled live chat
923    Next time, keep bugging DOS and GZ
924    Back to China
925    question on packet 4
926    AT Last GZ Responds!
928    Last night (1/17) chat summary
929    Chat Summary from 1/17/03
931    My Soap Box
932    See Clifton's Chat Summary
933    The Faces Of Humanity
934    Do we still have hope?
935    Chat summary
936    Email From Harty/Re-submission
937    Call me a foolish optimist but ..
938    A Word of Caution for Those Early in the Process
939    What should I do
940    Five year plan
941    Mexico Anyone?
942    Which Senate/House Committee Oversees DOS-CA?
943    Checkup Question
944    Let's make some Money, Mick!
945    GZ holiday  for Chinese New Year
946    Lingling's name Finally Arrives at DOS
947    Time Line
948    guangzhou E-mail dead
949    Anyone knows if DOS open today?
951    Hello
952    Anyone been to Latvia?
953    Campaign Support
954    Eric ?
955    My master plan
956    Date those e-mails
957    what should I do ?
958    More exposure
959    anyone interviewed in December?
961    Bringing Money to the US
962    fax NO. to Maura harty
963    Getting prescription glasses in China
964    I called DOS info line again today
965    calling DOS today
966    Visa refusal
967    E-Mail With A Letterhead
968    Does Anyone Know Lisa Piascik's FAX Number?
969    Realtime chat
970    got through to DOS today
971    to P.J
972    just getting started
973    Just got back from Beijing - Packet 3!
974    Party culture 101
975    Inputting Chinese Characters
976    2 weeks, a lie??
977    Fax to Powell for Friday Jan 23rd
978    Somebody Calm Me Down!
979    How are you?
980    Respone From Maura Harty
981    Chinese Telegraphic Code theory
982    mailed to NBC dateline
983    a girl get EMS today
984    INS established complaint procedures
985    INS established complaint procedures
986    Harty and shortly
987    Lotto winner requires background check
988    New campaign has begun
989    How many of us August interviewees still wait?
990    We are paying the surcharging for asylum seekers
991    Did Harty reply to our last group letter
992    DOS must have hired the beavers
993    GZ screws up again!  Lying again!
994    Received EMS today
995    Newspaper photo
996    In Shanghai?
997    What a joke
998    Port of Entry
999    Cabra's email
1000    Thursday January 23, 2003
1001    Just great, this doesn't help our cause
1002    False Alarm.....An Update
1003    I may be wrong, but is it possible?
1004    Off Topic: Guangzhou Night Zoo
1005    Independent Film Ch.
1006    Anybody know about courier flights?
1007    did you know??
1008    Off topic: Super Bowl in San Diego
1009    How do you explain this to your fiance(e) ?
1010    False Alarm....A Second Update
1011    visa clearance
1012    Russia/ China namechecks
1013    Back to normal some day?
1014    Cabral e-mail
1015    Tried to call GZ
1016    The next letter to Maura Harty?
1018    has this happened to anyone?
1019    Site for Dept of Homeland Security
1020    Watch out for New Year Shopping Maddness
1021    March 1st
1022    Called DOS today on Lingling's case
1023    What about a different strategy?
1024    Is it possible GZ is the real problem?
1025    Virus spread out from GZ!?
1026    Travel in China (continued)
1027    What language is needed here?
1028    TOP10: Why the wait is actually good !
1029    TOP10: Excess luggage top excuses
1030    FBI Priorities
1031    Why
1032    today Jan 25, since 14:00
1033    congress.org soap box letter posted
1034    Senate Bills under consideration
1035    Wampeters, Foma, and Grand Falloons
1036    Problems already forseen
1037    To: Eric&Yuhui
1038    Owen is right
1039    Personal letters
1040    Trip to GZ in February
1041    A Trip to Washington
1042    Lies they have told us
1043    Virus Overwhelms Global Internet Systems
1044    MA residents: team up!
1045    Chinese New Year characters
1046    Yao Ming in Superbowl commercial
1047    Government's path of secrecy
1048    Date visas will all be issued!
1049    EMS arrives in Shanghai!
1050    More Stuff from the Press
1051    Consular Affairs
1053    question on evidence of relationship
1054    TOP10: Secrets of resubmission process
1055    Don't tell me everyone is watching
1056    Top10:We could not make it
1057    About the Chinese New Year
1058    New Fees have been reduced
1059    New V Visa
1060    Home Alone for the Holidays
1061    CFL - 1st Annual Reunion, Shanghai, China
1062    re-submission
1065    Too Polite
1066    Now "a matter of weeks"
1067    letter to Harty
1068    Coming to America
1069    Why the situation won't improve
1070    Did I Miss The Boat?
1071    August interviewee can be cleared in1-2weeks?
1072    Colorado Black Hole Group
1073    Visa approved
1074    IS NOT 6 MONTHS ENOUGH?
1075    Shenyang Consulate vs Guangzhou
1076    Dirty Visa Nursery Rhymes
1077    We Need Your Collective Wisdom
1078    Send Your Info To Owen and Mick!
1080    Your worst fears are correct!!!!
1081    Fax Adams. etc.
1082    Talked to Sara at DOS.
1083    It���s not really fair for us
1084    Has anyone written to Washington Gov. Gary Locke?
1085    THE PROBLEM WITH RESUBMISSION!
1086    Feel better?
1087    Would more letters help?
1088    Just noticed...
1089    Blue thinggie scale...TOP10 sort of..
1090    Called DOS
1091    Reply from GZ
1092    Recording from Cabral
1093    Valentine's Day at DOS-CA
1094    Oh, but what a tangled web they weave
1095    GZ fax form and numbers
1096    Brazilian Barbeque
1097    Trying to Catch Up
1098    I don't know what to do
1099    New Message on G7
1100    Haven't Had Your Interview Yet?
1101    Is DOS-CA Info Line Down?
1102    Cheap airfares available!
1103    Screwed again!
1104    The "I faxed GZ to ask" list
1105    New Polls
1111    need Maura Harty's fax #
1112    NEW GZ Fax Numbers
1113    DOS hotline gives more info
1114    Visa delays 'hamper US business'
1115    Why Not Inquire Ourselves
1116    At last some people like Americans..
1117    Ok...feeling really bad....missing her!!
1118    RESPONSE FROM R. ADAMS
1119    It's Lonesome all alone in the chat room
1121    Waiting on my Jet Plane :)
1122    A Wedding Funny
1123    Managed to get through to DOS today
1125    has anyone had this happen
1126    Of the people, by the people, for the people
1127    GZ is not the real problem
1128    CIA form
1129    forgive my dissapointment in the group
1130    Congressman's office
1131    Hope noone gets mad at this!
1132    Today's Action Plan: 01-30-03
1133    EMS Received
1134    Action Plan #2
1135    Good night all!
1136    Two Responses In The Same Day
1137    Action Plan-My Opinion
1138    Mexican Consulate closed OT
1139    Huge news
1140    Huge News
1142    visa clearance
1143    Computing Common Sense
1144    My letter to Harty
1145    My latest e-mail to Asst. Sec. Harty
1146    Colleges fault system to track foreign students
1147    Response from Piascik
1148    off the wall thought
1149    For those who want to be able to receive
1150    Letter to President Bush
1151    Local Media Letter: TV, radio, newspapers
1152    Auto Response from Bush
1153    For your Senators and Representatives:
1154    Bush email contact form
1155    Contact Information
1156    IRS Deductability of fiance
1157    Introducing my Husband
1158    Guangzhou Consulate agrees to meeting
1159    Received Packet #3
1161    to Luckybabe,
1162    Alone in China on New Years Eve
1163    chinese new years live
1164    I.N.S. Shredder Ended Work Backlog, U.S. Says
1165    Happy Chinese New Year!!
1166    An Ugly Turnaround
1167    Coalition Building Amongst Deligates
1168    resubmitted on 1/13 got visa
1169    Call DOS.
1170    INS workers shredding documents
1171    Top 10 reasons you should not get drunk while wait
1172    More visa fraud uncovered
1173    Oh, yea.  This name check is really helping
1174    E-mail from GZ
1176    State Department Link Will Open Visa Database to P
1177    Keep up the pressure until we get visas

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22 hours ago, Randy W said:

We don't have the posts prior to #12 (in the Call to DOS topic) anymore. But I believe it was just a couple of days prior to that (Nov. 27, 2002) that PJ made post # 1.

Dan pays the bills every month, but hasn't shared anything with me about where that stands. We apparently have enough coming in to cover it.

Well might as well wish CFL a happy 20th anniversary week, many forums have come and gone since the early 2000s and despite the drop off in activity, CFL continues on (thanks to Randy W). Wish I could've been around for the earlier days, but glad I found it either way. I got a lot of great advice on our AOS case, bringing my stepdaughter over, helping her adjust to life in the US, and of course during the early COVID months there was a lot of great info on here. And I always appreciate seeing Randy's posts on what's going on nowadays in China. Here's to another 20 years!

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