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Thank you. About 2 hours after I posed that, I finally managed to get through it. I will save that for next time. Might make it easier if she forgets.... Thanks again. Tim The system works the same, whether you're using Chinese Windows, or an English version. Whatever is currently displayed on-screen, can be captured by clicking the keyboard button labeled, PrtSc, Print Screen, PrntScr, or other derivations. Depending on your keyboard, you may need to click a function button before clicking the Print Screen button. After you click Print Screen, the image is captured in the Windows clipboard, and can then be pasted into an image editor, email, or whatever. Here is a rudimentary translation: ¸ÃϵͳµÄ¹¤³Ì£¬Í¬Ê±£¬ÄúÊÇ·ñʹÓÃÖÐÎÄÊÓ´°£¬»òÒ»Ó¢Óï°æ±¾¡£ÎÞÂÛÊÇÄ¿Ç°ÏÔʾÔÚÓ©Ä»ÉÏ£¬¿ÉÒÔ²¶»ñͨ¹ýµã»÷¼üÅÌÉϵİ´Å¥±êʾ£¬ prtsc £¬´òÓ¡ÆÁÄ»£¬ prntscr £¬»òÆäËûÎÄ×Ö¡£¸ù¾ÝÄúµÄ¼üÅÌ£¬Äú¿ÉÄÜÐèÒª°´Ò»¸ö¹¦Äܼü£¬È»ºóµã»÷Print Screen°´¼ü¡£ µ±Äúµ¥»÷´òÓ¡ÆÁÄ»ÉÏ£¬Í¼ÏñÊÇ×¥»ñÔÚWindows¼ôÌù°å£¬È»ºóÕ³Ìùµ½Ò»¸öͼÏñ±à¼­Æ÷£¬µç×ÓÓʼþ£¬»òʲô¡£

Yea. Once I have a new story, I will update my sig. But that is my old story. Documented somewhere in these forums. Tim Your signature is so strange to me. You can read his older posts for the answer...

I need some help. I need to instruct my chinese friend how to make a windows screenshot, save it, and send it to me. I'm pretty good with this stuff, but with the language barrier, and she is not very computer savvy, I'm having a heck of a time instructing her how to do it. Can any that has access to the Chinese windows find the build in help instructions, or type out the instructions, so I can send that to her? I would appreciate it. Thanks. Tim

Here is the trick to entering in Pinyin with the accent marks. Activate the "US Extended" keyboard in System Preferences and then do: Option-a and then <vowel> to create the first tones: ¨¡, ¨¥, ¨©, ¨­, ¨± Option-e and then <vowel> to create the second tones: ¨¢, ¨¦, ¨ª, ¨®, ¨² Option-v and then <vowel> to create the third tone: ¨£, ¨§, ¨«, ¨¯, ¨³ Option-` and then <vowel> to create the fourth tone: ¨¤, ¨¨, ¨¬, ¨°, ¨´ u and then Shift-Option-u and then Shift-Option-<a, e, v or `> gives ¨µ, ¨¶, ¨· or ¨¸. v may be entered as a <vowel> to produce a ¨¹. For instance, Option-e v produces ¨¶. Option-u u produces a ¨¹ without tone marks.

Are you on 10.5? If so, then you just need to enable the character palettes you wish to use. Just go into System Preferences and select International. Under Language, select Edit list, and add the languages. In the inputs menu, select the input methods you want to use. You might also find this useful. Input methods that work more like windows. http://openvanilla.org/ good luck.

If you are installing a current version, you don't need to do anything special. The fonts to display Chinese are built in. However if you want the menus and such in Chinese you need to take extra steps.

This is big news. A tidal wave of tourists .... wow

Faked photo

I rarely eat at a place because the food is cheap, this is perhaps one of the reasons why. They have to cut corners somewhere. Yes, this could very well have been some of us and our ladies. Pretty scary.

I really feel for those people who fell victim to this scam. Some lost everything, including their lives. Ant Scam

That's sounds promising. I hope that the relationship would grow into much more. I am not sure I could completely happy with MJ if the relationship did not get past the practical part. Practical is a very common theme through this thread Tim. But as many have posted and shared once the practical part is over, welcome to the "good" part!! Just remember not to do something to have her go back to the first part!!

Yes Eunice, this does seem to summerize the situation with MJ and I. Of course that is ancient proverb, and does not always work in the modern times practical sense. As I try to make MJ understand, I will support and provide for her once she is in the states. I do think however her family thinks this way, and as you know, they are from the Northeast. I hope Tim can interprete this for us: ¼Þºº¼Þºº, ´©Ò³Է¹. People from northeast China like to say that.

This is a very interesting thread. I struggle to understand my new relationship with Man Juan. I am trying to understand her and her motivations for being in this relationship. I think MJ does make her decisions in a practical sense. I think (I) was a practical based decision for her. There really should be a book on this subject.

My experiences so far in Shenzhen. I have not heard any name calling, just lots of stares. Have not seen many foreigners, but a few and a few with Chinese wives/girlfriends. I got ambushed yesterday by two 4 year old street beggars selling flowers. They wrapped themselves around each of my legs and would not let go. Each time I pry one off, the other would take their place. I finally told Man Juan to give them some RMB to get off of me. That was my first experience of something like that.

Yea, it seems a lot of effort to go to for a special meal.. Paul Not sure why, but... ?

Death pits technology against Chinese control BEIJING, China (CNN) -- Wei Wenhua was a model communist and is now a bloggers' hero -- a "citizen journalist" turned martyr. Wei Wenhua was beaten to death after he took pictures of a streetside fracas between villagers and authorities. 1 of 2 The construction company manager was driving his car when he witnessed an ugly scene: a team of about 50 city inspectors beating villagers who tried to block trucks from unloading trash near their homes. Wei took out his cell phone and began taking pictures. The city inspectors saw Wei and then attacked him in a beating that lasted five minutes. By the time it was over, the 41-year-old Wei was slumped unconscious. He was rushed to the hospital but was dead on arrival. His death earlier this month continues to stir controversy. In China's mainstream media and in the blogosphere, angry Chinese are demanding action. After the Web site sina.com published news of Wei's beating, readers promptly expressed their outrage. In one day alone, more than 8,000 posted comments. Bloggers inside and outside China bluntly condemned the brutal killing. Watch the swirling controversy over Wei's death » "City inspectors are worse than the mafia," wrote one Chinese blogger. "They are violent civil servants acting in the name of law enforcement." Another blogger asked, "Just who gave these city inspectors such absurd powers?" Known as "chengguan" in Chinese, city inspectors are auxiliary support for police. They are expected to deal with petty crimes. Their tasks include cracking down on unlicensed trading. They frequently are seen chasing street vendors off the streets and confiscating their goods. Don't Miss Chinese man beaten to death U.S. concerned for Saudi blogger Critics have said they often abuse their authority and prey on the weak. In the central city of Zhengzhou last year, 1,000 college students scuffled with police and overturned cars after city inspectors roughed up a female student who had set up a street stall. These incidents prompted the government to redefine the role of city inspectors. Still, observed Jeremy Goldkorn, editor in chief of Danwei.org, "Some bloggers [are] saying this whole chengguan system is prone to corruption and abuse and it should be disbanded." Beijing scholar Xiong Peiyun wrote in Wednesday's Southern Metropolis Daily, "Perhaps no one wishes to face this question. Wei Wenhua's death stands as clear proof of the violent ways of local city inspectors. It's 2008 and another citizen goes down. When will we stand up and restrain the law enforcement violence of this city inspectors system?" More and more victims of abuse already are standing up. "It's the latest in a series of incidents which have pit provincial government authorities against citizens -- those who are protesting against something who are recording and blogging and writing about something that they consider scandalous," Goldkorn said. Some journalists and bloggers have even compared Wei's fatal beating to the Rodney King case, when the Los Angeles police repeatedly clubbed him. Others say this is reminiscent of the 2003 death of graphic designer Sun Zhigang in the Chinese city of in Guangzhou. The 27-year-old college graduate was fatally beaten while in detention for not carrying proper identification. The public outcry, amplified in the country's blogosphere, prompted China's premier to restrict police powers of detention. Years ago, killings such as these would not have received such attention, and victims would have been forgotten, but with modern technology in the hands of ordinary citizens, abusive officials are getting caught in the act. China's burgeoning economy allows a relatively freer flow of information. In September, China had 172 million Internet users, 10 million more than the last official count was released in July. Officials said about 4 million Chinese go online for the first time every month. Millions have opened blogs, too. Mobile phone users also reached more than half a billion in September, according to the government. Even though Article 35 of the Chinese Constitution is supposed to guarantee freedom of speech, China continues to restrict the flow of information. Fearful of the surge in Internet and mobile phone usage -- and the information they are able to transmit -- the Chinese authorities are stepping up efforts to monitor and restrict their use, according to Reporters Without Borders, which fights against censorship and laws that undermine press freedom. A few Internet data centers have been closed down, along with thousands of Web sites. Controversial blogs are blocked and unblocked multiple times. But silencing these citizen journalists is getting more difficult. Days after Wei's January 7 death, a government official in Tianmen city, Wei's hometown, was fired, four others detained and more than 100 placed under investigation. Chinese authorities now appear to be taking these cases seriously. Goldkorn said: "It's the kind of trouble that is very threatening to the party and the government, because it's the kind of trouble that questions their reason d'etre. So when looking at things like this, in the back of their minds, is always, 'Could this develop into a real mass incident that has the power to threaten the stability of China?' " Meanwhile, bloggers are heaping eulogies for Wei. So far, no one has seen the pictures Wei took that day. It is thought his camera was destroyed in the beating. "Eternal repose to Citizen Wei Wenhua," wrote blogger Wang Gongquan. "In the face of violence and brute power, he lifted a citizen's rights, conscience, responsibility and courage." Reporters Without Borders said, "Wei is the first 'citizen journalist' to die in China because of what he was trying to film.

You don't know? It sure sounds like your getting married this trip. Perhaps not legally, but symbolically... it sure sounds like it.

My lady is there now and she wrote to me that is was -26 there. I don't think the ice sculptures are in danger.

No, I'm taking Lee's route on that one... She has not yet begun to try to take control of me. No harm in testing the waters, see if it's ok to swim.. Tim, not even there yet and you are in trouble!!

I'm not quite sure if what I heard from my lady was any sign of things to come, but she on a few occasions has said to me "Dear, you have to listen to your wife." I don't know if this meant listen as in pay attention to what she says, or obey as in do what I tell you?! B) hmmm..

I call her either Dear, or by her Chinese name. However it's hard to say correctly so when others ask her name, I give them her american name. - Tim

I had consulted with a Chinese lawyer on this, yes, as long as you don't register the wedding, your still on a K1. Tim Steve ... the key is the visit to the government office, registration of marriage, and the infamous "red book" ... that's what the governments of China and the US regard as marriage in China. Even at our "wedding" (engagement) dinner I gave a little speech about how I will take care of Lao Po and she did likewise. It's things like that that constitute what Tim is referring to as a symbolic wedding. As long as he doesn't register a marriage with the Chinese government he's OK.

Jim, Thanks for the input. No, were not doing this first trip. First trip will only to see Man Juan. If we decide we will proceed further, then we will make plans to see her family in Harbin. I think around the April / May timeframe but who knows. lucky dates for us to marry have not been determined yet. Tim

Just wanted to be clearly understood. We are not going through the K3 process, we will have the Symbolic wedding for her and family there in China. I know numbers will be all over the place, I just want to get a handle on how hight end of the scale her family is. Her elder brothers wedding was 30,000 yuan 10 years ago. So our number will be higher. Tim

Just the straight poop. If you had a traditional wedding in China, and you foot the bill, what was the tally? What did that include? It seems my lady wants to go all out, including gold presents for family. If you would rather not disclose financial details here, PM me please. Tim