[question regarding CCP membership]

Maybe they just won't ask.

 

(Wishful thinking!)

 

That would be a blessing we would love to have!

 

On another note: The CCP approached my sweet fianc¨¦e Haiqing today requesting she pay her last six months of dues ... damn, no more flying under the radar! She told them she was busy and would get back to them later and sent me an email in a panic asking what she should do. I told her do not pay the dues because it will change how we deal with answers on all the forms and at her interview.

 

I told her to lie to them and give them any excuse she could think of and was comfortable with, like she doesn't have the money now because she needs the money for her son's tuition or she is having to help her mom and dad by sending them money or tell them a family member is ill and she is helping them or even tell them she put her money in the stock market and lost a lot of money and she can't afford to pay it until the first of the year. Anything to hold them at bay until I can get her out of there!

 

I just hope this doesn't turn into a situation were we end up feeling like we're dealing with a "legalized mafia"!

 

Keep your fingers crossed for us please.

 

Best to all,

Bob

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I don't think it blows holes in your logic. Just because there is the stipulation that you must have quit 2 years prior to filing for the visa to clear this requirement, this does not change the accuracy of your answers. If they ask you "Are you a member of the CCP?" the answer is still "No". If they ask you "Were you ever a member?" the answer would be "Yes". It would be up to them to ask "When did your membership end?"

Correct, this happened to Paula, and Mama Bear.

 

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...c=18469&hl=

 

18. Are you a CCP member? ¨Cyes.

Surprised. Are you a current CCP member?¡ªyes. I have statements for it from me and my husband.

Show me¡ªshe read it very carefully and thanked me for the statements.

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...c=21187&hl=

 

Mama Bear was prepared before interview for a blue slip.

 

Hey dnoblett,

 

These are a couple of good links! I think you may have posted them on the other thread talking about this issue and I read them there. I learned two valuable lessons from them which I shared with my sweet fianc¨¦e Haiqing.

 

From the first link: When you have that pink slip in your hand the only thing that should come out of your mouth is "thank you, thank you and thank you" as you cordially leave as quickly as possible (I'd have a hard time not running myself!).

 

And from the second link: Be prepared, be prepared, be prepared! I think her transition from blue to pink was much less painful because she was ready with some support documentation at her interview.

 

This is why I've been turning over every stone possible to see what pearls of wisdom may lie there. Collected and put together into a cohesive "Statement of Explanation" they should go a long way in making the transition from blue to pink as smooth as possible.

 

Thanks again for all your help!

Bob

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I was also wondering about those whose fiancee or spouse straight up quit the party without waiting for the six months. Was it an easy process? What were the reprecussions?

My fiancee has told me how difficult it is to just walk in and say "I quit". She says that the party would make things very difficult for her and/or her family in the future. For example, they would prevent her from getting some jobs in the future if we decided to move back to China. Any idea if this kind of stuff is true?

 

Hi nabeshin,

 

I have heard from my sweet Haiqing that it is difficult also. She told me if she walks in and quits a lot of eyebrows would get raised and she'd probably lose her job which she's had for over 9 years. That is why she chose to simply stop paying her dues and not make a big deal about it so hopefully no one else would notice until she was "out of Dodge".

 

I didn't know that she stopped paying her dues until this became an issue a few weeks ago. She is so smart that she checked out the situation ahead of time on some of the Chinese visa websites and simply decided it would be smart to stop paying dues last December. Gotta love a smart lady!

 

Let me know how your situation turns out.

 

Have a terrific day!

Bob

[question regarding CCP membership]

According to what dnoblett posted earlier it's either 2 or 5 years depending on ones situation regarding party involvement ... if I'm interpreting it correctly.

I haven't looked at this stuff for a long time... but based on the reading of the second one: "... in the case of..." that is china.. .ergo, 5 years. Just a logical read.

 

Consult an immigration attorney and not CFL for truly legal distinctions.

 

 

I think as some are saying... to GUZ... it ain't so gray... and too much thinking is going on here.

 

And it's 5 years as the applicable rule as far as I recall... which shouldn't change much in most cases anyways.

That is my take on it, 5 years due to the fact that China essentially only has one party ruling the country, it would be 2 years if the person was from a country that has fair elections and the communist party was just one of many parties that is in the elections, sort of like a person being a democrat or republican here in the USA.

 

Hi David and dnoblett,

 

This 2 or 5 year issue I read about it but kind of skipped over it knowing that it didn't apply in our case because my sweet Haiqing just quit paying her dues as of December 2007 which will only give her 8 or 9 months of none membership prior to her interview.

 

We're more or less preparing ourselves for a blue if that happens and then we'll comply with whatever questions or information/documents are needed for the overcome. We'll get the pink eventually, just a matter of time now that we have the support of friends here on CFL, thanks for your help.

 

Both of you have a terrific day!

Bob

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I don't really like this question. I understand that purpose of it, however it really burns me because I actually feel safer with a communist party member Chinese fiance (or wife) of an American who comes here with the knowledge and understanding of our economic system.

 

As opposed to these nice little white extremist movements which are otherwise so popular in this country. I will let you decide who is safer to live among. I watch these videos about all the illegal aliens wanting to sue American businesses for the right to work. And then I meet all the people here who struggle to do everything the legal way even through ever little detail, which burns into their minds "what should I do" and "what do I need to prepare to do". It really just peeves me off I guess you could say and I thought I would rest my night on those words.

 

Kinda off topic, but more in topic. I am looking forward to you both overcoming this! I think with the right heart and mind set, anything is possible. I don't see how something so wonderful could be destroyed, even by our great system. Best of luck and my prayers are always with you. I hope that my dreams of peace can be shared with as many people as I can wish my blessings upon.

 

I really enjoy hearing from you, and I am excited for my case to finish with pink, and I am even more excited to hear about the great triumphs of all the great friends I have met on here as well!

 

Hey Dylan,

 

I hear you, there are a lot of injustices in life and when you start comparing different situations against each other they can multiply like soap bubbles. I came to the realization some years ago, that I'm probably not going to be able to change those injustices, nor do I have the time or energy to do so.

 

I live my life by something I decided a while back and that is: I would rather be happy than right! For me it keeps things nice and simple just like in this situation with the CCP membership. I could rant and rave about how the laws are out of date, send letters to congressmen, GUZ, DOS and anybody else I could think of, make phone calls, pass petitions ... etc., etc., etc., or I can spend much less time finding out the best and most simple way to deal with the situation as it is now structured, get our pink and be done with it. Happy rather than right. Besides, I'd rather spend all that time writing love letters to my sweet fianc¨¦e Haiqing!

 

But like I said, I hear you! And sometimes it can be a hell of a lot of fun to just bitch about it and get it off ones chest!

 

I look forward to getting our pink and I'm certain that we will, even if there is a blue in the path prior to it, as we are now prepared for our situation with the knowledge gathered here from new friends at CFL. I'm looking forward to hearing from you as well when you and Wendy get your pink. By your words I can tell that you're a gentleman and a good person to call friend. Perhaps when you and Wendy are back here in the states, if Haiqing and I pass your way in our travels through the US, we can get together for a pizza and share stories.

 

Enjoy your day!

Bob

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Hey David,

 

I'm sure you're right, to GUZ it's as clear as can be because it's their job and they've been doing it for a while. Just like my job or your job comes as second nature to us but others would perhaps be perplexed. Hence, for us in the position of needing this information because it is a new experience and something we have to deal with and want to deal with in the proper fashion, a lot of thinking is taking place and in my opinion this is a good thing.

 

When I teach Tae Kwon Do to a new white belt student they appear to me a Black Belt to be thinking too much also, but when I think about what it was like and remember being a white belt myself, I did the same exact thing ... it's natural and part of the process. I just hope I'm collecting enough thoughts and information here to help the other visa white belts who will have the same questions.

 

According to what dnoblett posted earlier it's either 2 or 5 years depending on ones situation regarding party involvement ... if I'm interpreting it correctly.

 

Enjoy your day!

Bob

[question regarding CCP membership]

Hello Randy and Bill,

 

Ok, now I feel better.

 

I had read the information that dnoblett posted earlier today a week or so ago and originally interpreted it as you have stated. My original thought about it was "why would US law decide who is and isn't a CCP member? After all these are not US citizens" so my next logical thought was "since they are Chinese citizens what does the CCP feel their status as a member is based upon their laws?". That is why my sweet fianc¨¦e Haiqing and I went through the trouble of obtaining the CCP Constitution so we could get their take on her status.

 

It makes the "YES" for past membership and "NO" for current membership clear now and leaves the responsibility for asking "when" with GUZ where is should be.

 

When dnoblett posted earlier I thought "maybe I didn't take a close enough look at this or maybe I interpreted it wrong" and second guessed myself. When you and Bill posted it reconfirmed my original thoughts.

 

This is definitely and issue that has it's "gray" areas and my "gray" matter is certainly getting a good work out trying to navigate it. I feel like the guy from the old Monty Python show who used to yell "MY BRAIN HURTS!!!"

 

Thanks Randy and Bill for your help, Haiqing and I sincerly appreciate it.

 

Enjoy your evening,

Bob

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Hello Bill,

 

Good valid point! I was looking at it as a black or white issue but again we're treading into that infamous "gray" ... ? ... or is it "grey" ... ? ... well ... uh ... dah??? ... yes?, no?, both???

 

What I was concerned about is whether or not, in the eyes of GUZ, my sweet fianc¨¦e Haiqing is still considered to be a CCP member under US law even though she quit by becoming a non dues payer over six months ago. If I'm interpreting this 2 year time frame accurately then I am assuming they would still consider her a CCP member in which case she would have to answer "YES" in order to be honest and truthful about it which is exactly what we are trying to do.

 

We're not trying to misrepresent our case, we're not trying to lie to get a visa, we're not looking for any magic "short cut", we're just trying to determine how to answer everything honestly without causing any unnecessary delays in our visa process.

 

It's a shame there are no guidelines from GUZ on how to accurately deal with this. If anyone knows a phone number where I can call and get a straight answer to this I'd appreciate having it ... on second thought an email address would be better that way I can have it in writing!

 

Until then I'll just continue to feel my way through the "gray" one step at a time.

 

Thanks for your input Bill, enjoy your evening,

Bob

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Hello dnoblett,

 

Thanks for your input and more importantly thanks for blowing holes in my logic. As I mentioned in a previous post I would rather be asked the hard questions now amongst friends than to be blindsided later!

 

If I am interpreting this correctly, according to US law, a past CCP member is still considered to be a member unless they quit the party at least 2 years, or as long as 5 years depending on membership status, prior to filing for a visa.

 

Therefore, this being the case, any questions asked on the forms about being a current member of the CCP would have to be answered "YES" unless one quit at least 2 years, or 5 years depending on membership status, prior to being asked about it.

 

Given this fact it's just a shame that the waiver process can't be put into motion when one files the P3 package instead of having to go through the additional expense and time by having to wait for the interview and basically show up to say "hi, I'm here to get a blue slip and ask for a waiver.".

 

I think it would be pretty obvious that if you are listing CCP membership on your forms and/or answering "YES" on the questions that GUZ is not going to simply overlook it and give you a pink, sounds like it should be an automatic blue to me so why not allow people to fess up and start the waiver process early? Seems like it would save everyone a lot of time and frustration dealing with this issue.

 

I'm seriously considering attending an ACH meeting so I can tell them about our situation, ask if we've addressed it properly so we can avoid all future problems and ask why the waiver process can't be started earlier.

 

Thanks again for your input dnoblett, I really appreciate it!

 

Have a terrific day!

Bob

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Try to educate the person who has lost the will? That's kinda scary. My fiancee has told me about the consequences of quitting and now I can see what she means! She was "strongly persuaded" to join during college a few years ago because of her high marks. I hope that falls under involuntary membership.

 

Hey nabeshin,

 

You like that paragraph huh? Puts new meaning into the phrase " ... the fear of God ..."! ... doesn't it?

 

That is why I feel that since simply stopping dues payments accomplishes the same thing as walking in and quitting, it's an easier path for our loved ones to take provided you have that six month window to become officially terminated as a member according to the rules prior to answering any questions about membership on forms and at ones interview.

 

My sweet Haiqing was pushed into joining during her college years because of her high marks also. It seems they like to target those individuals and pressure them with promises of a better life.

 

To answer the question in your next post. She did not translate it although she is capable of doing so (I can't image how long it would take!). She found the official copy printed in English but I don't know where yet as she hasn't told me. I do know that she was scouring book stores in her search so that may be the source.

 

Enjoy your day!

Bob

[question regarding CCP membership]

Stand by... I may have an English translation of that within a few days...

 

Thanks Bill ...

 

... but my sweet, resourceful fiancee Haiqing has us all covered on this!

 

Relax and enjoy your day,

Bob

[question regarding CCP membership]

This is a section of the text my sweet Haiqing highlighted for me to share with everyone here on CFL. It's the part just above the text I highlighted on my other post that points out that it is ok to quit the CCP. What is interesting is the next paragraph which in it's wording implies strict discipline for those considering quitting. This does not sound like voluntary membership to me! I wonder how tight the thumb screw have to get before they let you go.

 

Article 9 Party members are free to withdraw from the Party. When a Party member asks to withdraw, the Party branch concerned shall, after discussion by its general membership meeting, remove his name from the Party rolls, make the removal public and report it to the next higher Party organization for the record.

 

The Party branch shall try to educate the Party member who lacks revolutionary will, fails to fulfill the duties of a Party member, or is not qualified for membership and require him to correct his mistakes within the time. If he remains incorrigible after education, he should be persuaded to withdraw from the Party. The case shall be discussed and decided by the general membership meeting of the Party branch concerned and submitted to the next higher Party organization for approval. If the Party member being persuaded to withdraw refuses to do so, the case shall be submitted to the general membership meeting of the Party branch concerned for discussion to decide on the removal of his name from the Party rolls, after which the decision shall be submitted to the next higher Party organization for approval.

 

A Party member who fails to take part in regular Party activities, pay membership dues or do work assigned by the Party for six successive months without good reason is regarded as having given up membership. The general membership meeting of the Party branch concerned shall decide on the removal of such a person?s name from the Party rolls and report it to the next higher Party organization for approval.

 

I hope this is helpful for everyone facing this issue. My sweet Haiqing worked hard to get a hold of this information. It gives us some ammunition should we need to make a case about her status as a member and involuntary membership.

 

Best of luck to all in getting your pink,

Bob

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Here is the remainder of the English version:

 

Chapter III: Central Organizations of the Party

 

Article 18 The National Congress of the Party is held once every five years and convened by the Central Committee. It may be convened before the normally scheduled date if the Central Committee deems it necessary or if more than one-third of the organizations at the provincial level so request. Except under extraordinary circumstances, the Congress may not be postponed.

 

The number of delegates to the National Congress of the Party and the procedure governing their election shall be determined by the Central Committee.

 

Article 19 The functions and powers of the National Congress of the Party are as follows:

 

(1) To hear and examine the reports of the Central Committee;

 

(2) To hear and examine the reports of the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection;

 

(3) To discuss and decide on major questions concerning the Party;

 

(4) To revise the Constitution of the Party;

 

(5) To elect the Central Committee; and

 

(6) To elect the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection.

 

Article 20 The powers and functions of the National Conference of the Party are as follows: to discuss and make decisions on major questions; and to replace members and elect additional members of the Central Committee and the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection. The number of members and alternate members of the Central Committee to be replaced or newly elected shall not exceed one-fifth of the respective totals of members and alternate members of the Central Committee elected by the National Congress of the Party.

 

Article 21 The Central Committee of the Party is elected for a term of five years. However, when the next National Congress is convened before or after its normally scheduled date, the term shall be correspondingly shortened or extended. Members and alternate members of the Central Committee must have a Party standing of five years or more. The number of members and alternate members of the Central Committee shall be determined by the National Congress. Vacancies on the Central Committee shall be filled by its alternate members in the order of the number of votes by which they were elected.

 

The Central Committee of the Party meets in plenary session at least once a year, and such sessions are convened by its Political Bureau.

 

When the National Congress is not in session, the Central Committee carries out its decisions, directs the entire work of the Party and represents the Communist Party of China in its external relations.

 

Article 22 The Political Bureau, the Standing Committee of the Political Bureau and the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Party are elected by the Central Committee in plenary session. The General Secretary of the Central Committee must be a member of the Standing Committee of the Political Bureau.

 

When the Central Committee is not in session, the Political Bureau and its Standing Committee exercise the functions and powers of the Central Committee.

 

The Secretariat of the Central Committee is the working body of the Political Bureau of the Central Committee and its Standing Committee. The members of the Secretariat are nominated by the Standing Committee of the Political Bureau of the Central Committee and are subject to endorsement by the Central Committee in plenary session.

 

The General Secretary of the Central Committee is responsible for convening the meetings of the Political Bureau and its Standing Committee and presides over the work of the Secretariat.

 

The members of the Military Commission of the Central Committee are decided on by the Central Committee.

 

The central leading bodies and leaders elected by each Central Committee shall, when the next National Congress is in session, continue to preside over the Party?s day-to-day work until the new central leading bodies and leaders are elected by the next Central Committee.

 

Article 23 Party organizations in the Chinese People?s Liberation Army carry on their work in accordance with the instructions of the Central Committee. The political work organ of the Military Commission of the Central Committee is the General Political Department of the Chinese People?s Liberation Army; the General Political Department directs Party and political work in the army. The organizational system and organs of the Party in the armed forces are prescribed by the Military Commission of the Central Committee.

 

 

Chapter IV: Local Organizations of the Party

 

Article 24 The Party congress of a province, autonomous region, municipality directly under the Central Government, city divided into districts, or autonomous prefecture is held once every five years.

 

The Party congress of a county (banner), autonomous county, city not divided into districts, or municipal district is held once every five years.

 

Local Party congresses are convened by the Party committees at the corresponding levels. Under extraordinary circumstances, they may be held before or after their normally scheduled dates upon approval by the next higher Party committees.

 

The number of delegates to the local Party congresses at any level and the procedure governing their election are determined by the Party committees at the corresponding levels and should be reported to the next higher Party committees for approval.

 

Article 25 The functions and powers of the local Party congresses at all levels are as follows:

 

(1) To hear and examine the reports of the Party committees at the corresponding levels;

 

(2) To hear and examine the reports of the commissions for discipline inspection at the corresponding levels;

 

(3) To discuss and decide on major issues in the given areas; and

 

(4) To elect the Party committees and commissions for discipline inspection at the corresponding levels.

 

Article 26 The Party committee of a province, autonomous region, municipality directly under the Central Government, city divided into districts, or autonomous prefecture is elected for a term of five years. The members and alternate members of such a committee must have a Party standing of five years or more.

 

The Party committee of a county (banner), autonomous county, city not divided into districts, or municipal district is elected for a term of five years. The members and alternate members of such a committee must have a Party standing of three years or more.

 

When local Party congresses at various levels are convened before or after their normally scheduled dates, the terms of the committees elected by the previous congresses shall be correspondingly shortened or extended.

 

The number of members and alternate members of the local Party committees at various levels shall be determined by the next higher committees. Vacancies on the local Party committees at various levels shall be filled by their alternate members in the order of the number of votes by which they were elected.

 

The local Party committees at various levels meet in plenary session at least twice a year.

 

Local Party committees at various levels shall, when the Party congresses of the given areas are not in session, carry out the directives of the next higher Party organizations and the decisions of the Party

 

Congresses at the corresponding levels, direct work in their own areas and report on it to the next higher Party committees at regular intervals.

 

Article 27 Local Party committees at various levels elect, at their plenary sessions, their standing committees, secretaries and deputy secretaries and report the results to the higher Party committees for approval. The standing committees of local Party committees at various levels exercise the powers and functions of local Party committees when the latter are not in session. They continue to handle the day-to-day work when the next Party congresses at their levels are in session, until the new standing committees are elected.

 

Article 28 A prefectural Party committee, or an organization analogous to it, is the representative organ dispatched by a provincial or an autonomous regional Party committee to a prefecture covering several counties, autonomous counties or cities. It exercises leadership over the work in the given region as authorized by the provincial or autonomous regional Party committee.

 

 

Chapter V: Primary Organizations of the Party

 

Article 29 Primary Party organizations are formed in enterprises, rural areas, government departments, schools, scientific research institutes, communities, mass organizations, intermediaries, companies of the People?s Liberation Army and other basic units, where there are at least three full Party members.

 

In primary organizations, primary Party committees and committees of general Party branches or Party branches are set up as the work requires and according to the number of Party members, subject to approval by the higher Party organizations. A primary Party committee is elected by a general membership meeting or a delegate meeting. The committee of a general Party branch or a Party branch is elected by a general membership meeting.

 

Article 30 A Primary Party committee is elected for a term of three to five years, while a general Party branch committee or a Party branch committee is elected for a term of two or three years. Results of the election of a secretary and deputy secretaries by a primary Party committee, general branch committee or branch committee shall be reported to the higher Party organizations for approval.

 

Article 31 The primary Party organizations are militant bastions of the Party in the basic units of society, where all the Party?s work proceeds and they serve as the foundation of its fighting capacity. Their main tasks are:

 

(1) To disseminate and carry out the Party?s line, principles and policies, the decisions of the Central Committee of the Party and other higher Party organizations, and their own decisions; to give full play to the exemplary, vanguard role of Party members, and to unite and organize the cadres and the rank of file inside and outside the Party to fulfill the tasks of their own units.

 

(2) To organize Party members to conscientiously study Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought, Deng Xiaoping Theory, the important thought of Three Represents, the Party?s line, principles, policies and decisions, acquire essential knowledge concerning the Party and obtain general, scientific and professional knowledge.

 

(3) To educate and supervise Party members, raise the overall quality of the Party membership, cultivate their Party spirit, ensure their regular participation in the activities of the Party organizations, make criticism and self-criticism, maintain and observe Party discipline, see that Party members truly fulfill their duties and protect their rights from encroachment.

 

(4) To maintain close ties with the masses, constantly seek their criticisms and opinions regarding Party members and the Party?s work, safeguard the legitimate rights and interests of the masses and do effective ideological and political work among them.

 

(5) To give full scope to the initiative and creativeness of Party members and the masses and to discover, nurture and recommend fine, talented people from among Party members and the masses and encourage them to contribute their skills and learning to the reform, opening up and the socialist modernization drive.

 

(6) To educate and train the activists who apply for Party membership, attend to the routine work concerning the recruitment of new members and attach great importance to recruiting Party members from among those in the forefront of production and work and from among young people.

 

(7) To see to it that Party and non-Party cadres strictly observe the law and administrative discipline and the financial and economic statutes and personnel regulations of the state and that none of them infringe on the interests of the state, the collective or the masses.

 

(8) To encourage Party members and the masses to conscientiously resist unhealthy practices and wage resolute struggles against all illegal and criminal activities.

 

Article 32 The primary Party committees in communities, townships and towns and the Party organizations in villages and communities provide leadership for the work in their localities and assist administrative departments, economic institutions and self-governing mass organizations in fully exercising their functions and powers.

 

In a state-owned or collective enterprise, the primary Party organization acts as the political nucleus and works for the operation of the enterprise. The primary Party organization guarantees and supervises the implementation of the principles and policies of the Party and the state in its own enterprise and backs the meeting of shareholders, board of directors, board of supervisors and manager (factory director) in the exercise of their functions and powers according to law. It relies wholeheartedly on the workers and office staff, supports the work of the congresses of representatives of workers and office staff and participates in making final decisions on major questions in the enterprise. It works to improve its own organization and provides leadership over ideological and political work, efforts for cultural and ethical progress and the trade unions, the Communist Youth League and other mass organizations.

 

In a non-public economic institution, the primary Party organization carries out the Party?s principles and policies, provides guidance to and supervises the enterprise in observing the laws and regulations of the state, exercises leadership over the trade union, the Communist Youth League organization and other mass organizations, rallies the workers and office staff around it, safeguards the legitimate rights and interests of all quarters and stimulates the healthy development of the enterprise.

 

In an institution where the administrative leaders assume full responsibility, the primary Party organization acts as the political nucleus. In an institution where the administrative leaders assume full responsibility under the leadership of the Party committee, the primary Party organization discusses and decides on major issues and at the same time ensures that the administrative leaders are able to fully exercise their functions and powers.

 

In offices of the Party or the state at all levels, the primary Party organizations assist the chief administrators in fulfilling their tasks and improving their work. They exercise supervision over all Party members, including the chief administrators who are Party members, but do not direct the work of their units.

 

 

Chapter VI: Party Cadres

 

Article 33 Party cadres are the backbone of the Party?s cause and public servants of the people. The Party selects its cadres according to the principle that they should possess both political integrity and professional competence, adheres to the practice of appointing people on their merits and opposes favoritism; it exerts genuine efforts to make the ranks of the cadres more revolutionary, younger in average age, better educated and more professionally competent.

 

The Party attaches great importance to education, training, selection and assessment of cadres, especially to the training and selection of outstanding young cadres. The Party actively promotes the reform of the cadre system.

 

The Party attaches great importance to the training and promotion of women cadres and cadres from among the ethnic minorities.

 

Article 34 Leading Party cadres at all levels must show exemplary performance in carrying out their duties as Party members prescribed in Article 3 of this Constitution and must meet the following basic requirements:

 

(1) Know Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought and Deng Xiaoping Theory well enough to perform their duties, earnestly put the important thought of Three Represents into practice, try hard to analyze and solve practical problems with the stand, viewpoint and methods of Marxism, keep stressing study, political awareness and integrity, and be able to stand the test of all trials and tribulations.

 

(2) Have the grand ideal of communism and firm conviction in socialism with Chinese characteristics, firmly implement the Party?s basic line, principles and policies, be determined to carry out the reform and opening to the outside world, devote themselves to the cause of modernization and work hard to start undertakings and make solid achievements in socialist construction.

 

(3) Persist in emancipating their minds, seeking truth from facts, keeping pace with the times and blazing new trails in a pioneering spirit; conduct earnest investigations and studies so as to be able to integrate the Party?s principles and policies with the actual conditions in their localities or departments and work efficiently; tell the truth, do practical work, seek tangible results and oppose formalism.

 

(4) Be fervently dedicated to the revolutionary cause and imbued with a strong sense of political responsibility, have practical experience, and be qualified for leading posts in organizational ability, general education and vocational knowledge.

 

(5) Properly exercise the power invested in them by the people, handle matters according to law, be upright and clean and work diligently for the people, set an example by their own actions, work hard and live simply, maintain close ties with the masses, uphold the Party?s mass line, conscientiously accept the criticism and supervision of the Party and the masses, exercise self-respect, self-examination, self-caution and self-motivation, combat bureaucratism, and fight against malpractices such as abuse of power for personal gain.

 

(6) Uphold the Party?s system of democratic centralism, maintain a democratic style of work, take the overall situation into consideration, and be good at uniting and working with other comrades, including those who hold differing opinions.

 

Article 35 Party cadres should be able to cooperate with non-Party cadres, respect them and be open-minded in learning from their strong points.

 

Party organizations at all levels must be good at discovering and recommending talented non-Party cadres with practical learning for leading posts, and ensure that the latter enjoy authority commensurate with their posts and can fully play their roles.

 

Article 36 Leading Party cadres at all levels, whether elected through democratic procedure or appointed by a leading body, are not entitled to lifelong tenure, and they can be transferred from or relieved of their posts.

 

Cadres no longer fit to continue working due to old age or poor health should retire according to the regulations of the state.

 

Chapter VII: Party Discipline

 

Article 37 Party discipline refers to the rules of conduct that must be observed by Party organizations at all levels and by all Party members. It is the guarantee that the unity and solidarity of the Party are safeguarded and that the tasks of the Party are accomplished. Party organizations must strictly observe and maintain Party discipline. A Communist Party member must conscientiously act within the bounds of Party discipline.

 

Article 38 Party organizations should criticize, educate or take disciplinary measures against members who violate Party discipline, depending on the nature and seriousness of their mistakes and in the spirit of ?learning from past mistakes to avoid future ones, and curing the sickness to save the patient?.

 

Party members who have seriously violated criminal law shall be expelled from the Party.

 

It is strictly forbidden in the Party to take any measures against a member that contravene the Party Constitution or the laws of the state, or to retaliate against or frame a member. Any offending organization or individual must be dealt with according to Party discipline and the laws of the state.

 

Article 39 There are five measures for enforcing Party discipline: warning, serious warning, removal from Party posts, probation within the Party, and expulsion from the Party.

 

The period for which a Party member is placed on probation shall not exceed two years. During that period, the Party member concerned has no right to participate in voting or elections or stand for election. A Party member who during that time truly rectifies his mistake shall have his rights as a Party member restored. Party members who refuse to mend their ways shall be expelled from the Party.

 

Expulsion is the ultimate Party disciplinary measure. In deciding on or approving an expulsion, Party organizations at all levels should study all the relevant facts and opinions and exercise extreme caution.

 

Article 40 Any disciplinary measure to be taken against a Party member must be discussed and decided on at a general membership meeting of the Party branch concerned, and reported to the primary Party committee concerned for approval. If the case is relatively important or complicated, or involves the expulsion of a member, it shall be reported to a Party commission for discipline inspection at or above the county level for examination and approval, in accordance with the specific situation. Under special circumstances, a Party committee or a commission for discipline inspection at or above the county level has the authority to decide directly on disciplinary measures to be taken against a Party member.

 

Any decision to remove a member or alternate member of the Central Committee or a local committee at any level from his posts within the Party, to place such a person on probation within the Party or to expel him from the Party must be approved by a two-thirds majority vote at a plenary meeting of the Party committee to which he belongs. In special circumstances, the decision may be taken first by the Standing Committee of the Political Bureau of the Central Committee or the standing committee of a local Party committee, pending confirmation at the plenary meeting of the Party committee. Such a disciplinary measure against a member or alternate member of a local Party committee is subject to approval by the higher Party committee.

 

A member or alternate member of the Central Committee who has seriously violated the criminal law shall be expelled from the Party on decision by the Political Bureau of the Central Committee; a member or alternate member of a local Party committee who has seriously violated criminal law shall be expelled from the Party on decision by the standing committee of the Party committee at the corresponding level.

 

Article 41 When a Party organization is deciding on a disciplinary measure against a Party member, it should investigate and verify the facts in an objective way. The Party member in question must be informed of a decision regarding any disciplinary measure to be taken and of the facts on which it is based. The person concerned must be given a chance to account for himself and speak in his own defense. If the member does not accept the decision, he can appeal, and the Party organization concerned must promptly deal with or forward his appeal, and must not withhold or suppress it. Those who cling to erroneous views and unjustifiable demands shall be educated by criticism.

 

Article 42 If a Party organization fails to uphold Party discipline, it must be investigated.

 

In case a Party organization seriously violates Party discipline and is unable to rectify the mistake on its own, the next higher Party committee should, after verifying the facts and considering the seriousness of the case, decide on the reorganization or dissolution of the organization, report the decision to the Party committee at the next higher level for examination and approval, and then formally announce and carry out the decision.

 

Chapter VIII: Party Organs for Discipline Inspection

 

Article 43 The Party?s Central Commission for Discipline Inspection functions under the leadership of the Central Committee of the Party. The Party?s local commissions for discipline inspection at all levels and primary commissions for discipline inspection function under the dual leadership of the Party committees at the corresponding levels and the next higher commissions for discipline inspection.

 

The Party?s commissions for discipline inspection at all levels serve a term of the same duration as the Party committees at the corresponding levels.

 

The Party?s Central Commission for Discipline Inspection elects, in plenary session, its standing committee, secretary and deputy secretaries and reports the results to the Central Committee for approval. Local commissions for discipline inspection at all levels elect, at their plenary sessions, their respective standing committees, secretaries and deputy secretaries. The results of the elections are subject to endorsement by the Party committees at the corresponding levels and should be reported to the next higher Party committees for approval. The question of whether a primary Party committee should set up a commission for discipline inspection or simply appoint a discipline inspection commissioner shall be determined by the next higher Party organization in light of the specific circumstances. The committees of general Party branches and Party branches shall have discipline inspection commissioners.

 

The Party?s Central Commission for Discipline Inspection shall, when its work so requires, accredit discipline inspection groups or commissioners to Party or state organs at the central level. Leaders of the discipline inspection groups or discipline inspection commissioners may attend relevant meetings of the leading Party organizations in the said organs as non-voting participants. The leading Party organizations in the organs concerned must support their work.

 

Article 44 The main tasks of the Party?s commissions for discipline inspection at all levels are as follows: to uphold the Constitution and other statutes of the Party, to check up on the implementation of the line, principles, policies and decisions of the Party and to assist the respective Party committees in improving the Party?s style of work and in organizing and coordinating the work against corruption.

 

The commissions for discipline inspection at all levels shall frequently provide education for Party members on their duty to observe Party discipline and adopt decisions for the upholding of Party discipline; they shall supervise Party members holding leading positions in exercising their power; they shall examine and deal with relatively important or complicated cases of violation of the Constitution or other statutes of the Party by Party organizations or Party members and decide on or rescind disciplinary measures against Party members involved in such cases; they shall deal with complaints and appeals made by Party members; and they shall guarantee the rights of Party members.

 

The commissions for discipline inspection at all levels shall report to the Party committees at the corresponding levels on the results of their handling of cases of special importance or complexity, as well as on the problems encountered. The local commissions for discipline inspection at all levels and primary commissions for discipline inspection shall also present such reports to the higher commissions.

 

If a commission for discipline inspection at any level discovers any violation of Party discipline by a member of the Party committee at the corresponding level, it may take the initial step of verifying the facts and, if it is necessary to put a case on file, it should report to the Party committee at the corresponding level for approval, and if a member of the standing committee of the Party committee is involved, it should first report to the Party committee at the corresponding level and then to the commission for discipline inspection at the next higher level for approval.

 

Article 45 Higher commissions for discipline inspection have the power to examine the work of the lower commissions and to approve or modify their decisions on any case. If decisions so modified have already been ratified by the Party committee at the corresponding level, the modification must be approved by the next higher Party committee.

 

If a local commission for discipline inspection or a primary commission for discipline inspection does not agree with a decision made by the Party committee at the corresponding level in dealing with a case, it may demand the commission at the next higher level to reexamine the case; if a local or primary commission discovers cases of violation of Party discipline by the Party committee at the corresponding level or by its members, and if that Party committee fails to deal with them properly or at all, it has the right to appeal to the higher commission for assistance in dealing with such cases.

 

Chapter IX: Leading Party Members? Groups

 

Article 46 A leading Party members? group may be formed in the leading body of a central or local state organ, people?s organization, economic or cultural institution or other non-Party unit. The group plays the role of the core of leadership. Its main tasks are: to see to it that the Party?s line, principles and policies are implemented, to discuss and decide on matters of major importance in its unit, to do well in managing affairs concerning cadres, to unite with the non-Party cadres and the masses in fulfilling the tasks assigned by the Party and the state and to guide the work of the Party organization of the unit and those directly under it.

 

Article 47 The composition of a leading Party members? group is decided by the Party organization that approves its establishment. The group shall have a secretary and, if necessary, deputy secretaries.

 

A leading Party members? group must accept the leadership of the Party organization that approves its establishment.

 

Article 48 Party committees may be set up in state organs which exercise centralized leadership over their subordinate units. The Central Committee of the Party shall provide the specific procedure for their establishment and define their functions, powers and tasks.

 

 

Chapter X: Relationship Between the Party and the Communist Youth League

 

Article 49 The Communist Youth League of China is a mass organization of advanced young people under the leadership of the Communist Party of China; it is a school where a large number of young people learn about socialism with Chinese characteristics and about communism through practice; it is the Party?s assistant and reserve force. The Central Committee of the Communist Youth League functions under the leadership of the Central Committee of the Party. The local chapters of the Communist Youth League are under the leadership of the Party committees at the corresponding levels and of the higher organizations of the League itself.

 

Article 50 Party committees at all levels must strengthen their leadership over the Communist Youth League organizations and pay attention to selecting and training League cadres. The Party must firmly support the Communist Youth League in the lively and creative performance of its work to suit the characteristics and needs of young people, and give full play to the League?s role as a shock force and as a bridge linking the Party with great numbers of young people.

 

Those secretaries of League committees at or below the county level or in enterprises and institutions who are Party members may attend meetings of Party committees at the corresponding levels and meetings of their standing committees as non-voting participants.

 

Chapter XI: Party Emblem and Flag

 

Article 51 The emblem of the Communist Party of China is a design of sickle and hammer.

 

Article 52 The flag of the Communist Party of China is a red flag highlighted by a golden Party emblem on it.

 

Article 53 The Party emblem and flag are the symbol and sign of the Communist Party of China. Party organizations at all levels and all Party members shall safeguard the sanctity of the Party emblem and flag. Party emblems and flags should be made and used according to regulations.

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Here is the complete Chinese Communist Party Constitution in English split in two post because of length, note the section in blue text:

 

Party Constitution

Amended and adopted at the 16th National Congress of CPC on Nov.14,2002

 

General Program

 

The Communist Party of China is the vanguard both of the Chinese working class and of the Chinese people and the Chinese nation. It is the core of leadership for the cause of socialism with Chinese characteristics and represents the development trend of China?s advanced productive forces, the orientation of China?s advanced culture and the fundamental interests of the overwhelming majority of the Chinese people. The realization of communism is the highest ideal and ultimate goal of the Party.

 

The Communist Party of China takes Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought, Deng Xiaoping Theory and the important thought of Three Represents as its guide to action.

 

Marxism-Leninism brings to light the laws governing the development of the history of human society. Its basic tenets are correct and have tremendous vitality. The highest ideal of communism pursued by the Chinese Communists can be realized only when the socialist society is fully developed and very advanced. The development and improvement of the socialist system is a long historical process. So long as the Chinese Communists uphold the basic tenets of Marxism-Leninism and follow the road suited to China?s specific conditions and chosen by the Chinese people of their own accord, the socialist cause in China will be crowned with final victory.

 

The Chinese Communists, with Comrade Mao Zedong as their chief representative, created Mao Zedong Thought by integrating the basic tenets of Marxism-Leninism with the concrete practice of the Chinese revolution. Mao Zedong Thought is Marxism-Leninism applied and developed in China; it consists of a body of theoretical principles concerning the revolution and construction in China and a summary of experience therein, both of which have been proved correct by practice; it represents the crystallized, collective wisdom of the Communist Party of China. Under the guidance of Mao Zedong Thought, the Communist Party of China led the people of all ethnic groups in their prolonged revolutionary struggle against imperialism, feudalism and bureaucrat-capitalism, winning victory for the new-democratic revolution and founding the People?s Republic of China, a people?s democratic dictatorship. After the founding of the People?s Republic, it led them in carrying out socialist transformation, completing the transition from New Democracy to socialism, establishing the basic system of socialism and developing socialism economically, politically and culturally.

 

After the Third Plenary Session of the Eleventh Party Central Committee, the Chinese Communists, with Comrade Deng Xiaoping as the chief representative, summed up their experience, both positive and negative, emancipated their minds, sought truth from facts, shifted the focus of the work of the whole Party onto economic development and carried out reform and opening to the outside world, ushering in a new era of development in the cause of socialism, gradually formulating the line, principles and policies concerning the building of socialism with Chinese characteristics and expounding the basic questions concerning the building, consolidating and developing of socialism in China, and thus founding Deng Xiaoping Theory. Deng Xiaoping Theory is the outcome of the integration of the basic tenets of Marxism-Leninism with the practice of contemporary China and the features of the times, a continuation and development of Mao Zedong Thought under new historical conditions; it represents a new period of development of Marxism in China, it is Marxism of contemporary China and it is the crystallized, collective wisdom of the Communist Party of China. It is guiding the socialist modernization of our country from victory to victory.

 

Since the Fourth Plenary Session of the Thirteenth Party Central Committee and in the practice of building socialism with Chinese characteristics, the Chinese Communists, with Comrade Jiang Zemin as their chief representative, have acquired a deeper understanding of what socialism is, how to build it and what kind of a party to build and how to build it, accumulated new valuable experience in running the Party and state and formed the important thought of Three Represents. The important thought of Three Represents is a continuation and development of Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought and Deng Xiaoping Theory; it reflects new requirements for the work of the Party and state arising from the changes in China and other parts of the world today; it serves as a powerful theoretical weapon for strengthening and improving Party building and for promoting self-improvement and development of socialism in China; and it is the crystallized, collective wisdom of the Communist Party of China. It is a guiding ideology that the Party must uphold for a long time to come. Persistent implementation of the Three Represents is the foundation for building our Party, the cornerstone for its governance and the source of its strength.

 

China is at the primary stage of socialism and will remain so for a long period of time. This is a historical stage which cannot be skipped in socialist modernization in China that is backward economically and culturally. It will last for over a hundred years. In socialist construction we must proceed from our specific conditions and take the path to socialism with Chinese characteristics. At the present stage, the principal contradiction in Chinese society is one between the ever-growing material and cultural needs of the people and the low level of production. Owing to both domestic circumstances and foreign influences, class struggle will continue to exist within a certain scope for a long time and may possibly grow acute under certain conditions, but it is no longer the principal contradiction. In building socialism, our basic task is to further release and develop the productive forces and achieve socialist modernization step by step by carrying out reform in those aspects and links of the production relations and the superstructure that do not conform to the development of the productive forces. We must uphold and improve the basic economic system, with public ownership playing a dominant role and diverse forms of ownership developing side by side as well as the system of distribution under which distribution according to work is dominant and a variety of modes of distribution coexist, encourage some areas and some people to become rich first, gradually eliminate poverty and achieve common prosperity, and continuously meet the people?s ever-growing material and cultural needs on the basis of the growth of production and social wealth. Development is our Party?s top priority in governing and rejuvenating the country. The general starting point and criterion for judging all our work should be how it benefits the development of the productive forces in our socialist society, adds to the overall strength of our socialist country and improves the people?s living standards. The beginning of the new century marks China?s entry into the new stage of development of building a well-off society in an all-round way and accelerating socialist modernization. The strategic objectives of economic and social development at the new stage in the new century are to consolidate and develop the well-off standard of living initially attained, bring China into a well-off society of a higher level to the benefit of well over one billion people by the time of the Party?s centenary and bring the per capita GDP up to the level of moderately developed countries and realize modernization in the main by the time of the centenary of the People's Republic of China.

 

The basic line of the Communist Party of China at the primary stage of socialism is to lead the people of all our ethnic groups in a concerted, self-reliant and pioneering effort to turn China into a prosperous, strong, democratic and culturally advanced modern socialist country by making economic development our central task while adhering to the Four Cardinal Principles and persevering in the reform and opening up.

 

In leading the cause of socialism, the Communist Party of China must persist in taking economic development as the central task, making all other work subordinated to and serve this central task. We must lose no time in speeding up economic development, implement the strategy of rejuvenating the country through science and education and that of sustainable development, give full play to the role of science and technology as the primary productive force. We must take advantage of the advancement of science and technology to improve the quality of workers and work hard to push forward the economy with good results, high quality and high speed.

 

The Four Cardinal Principles ? to keep to the socialist road and to uphold the people?s democratic dictatorship, leadership by the Communist Party of China, and Marxism-Leninism and Mao Zedong Thought ? are the foundation on which to build our country. Throughout the course of socialist modernization we must adhere to the Four Cardinal Principles and combat bourgeois liberalization.

 

Reform and opening up are the only way to make our country strong. We must carry out fundamental reform of the economic structure that hampers the development of the productive forces, and keep and improve a socialist market economy; we must also carry out corresponding political restructuring and reform in other fields. The opening up means all-dimensional opening up, both externally and internally. We must expand economic and technological exchanges and cooperation with other countries, make more and better use of foreign capital, resources and technologies, and assimilate and exploit the achievements of all other cultures, including all the advanced modes of operation and methods of management of developed countries in the West that embody the laws governing modern socialized production. We must be bold in blazing new trails in the practice of reform and opening up.

 

The Communist Party of China leads the people in promoting socialist democracy and building socialist political civilization. It keeps expanding socialist democracy, strengthens the socialist legal system, rules the country by law, builds a socialist country under the rule of law and consolidates the people?s democratic dictatorship. The system of people?s congresses and the system of multiparty cooperation and political consultation under the leadership of the Communist Party of China should continue. The Party should encourage the people to act as the masters of the country and take effective measures to protect the people?s right to run the affairs of the state and of society and manage economic and cultural undertakings. It should encourage the free airing of views and establish and improve systems and procedures of democratic decision-making and supervision. State legislation and law enforcement should be strengthened so as to gradually put all work of the state on a legal footing. Comprehensive measures for keeping law and order should be taken to maintain the long-term social stability. Efforts must be made according to law to crack down on the criminal activities and criminals that endanger national security and interests, social stability and economic development. We should strictly distinguish between the two different types of contradictions ? those between ourselves and the enemy and those among the people, so as to handle them properly.

 

The Communist Party of China leads the people in their efforts to build spiritual civilization as well as material and political civilizations and to combine ruling the country by law and ruling the country by virtue. Socialist spiritual civilization provides a powerful ideological driving force and intellectual support and helps create a good social climate for economic development, reform and opening up. It is essential to press ahead with education, science and culture, respect learning and talented people, raise the ideological, moral, scientific and educational levels of the entire nation, develop the fine national traditional culture, and develop a thriving socialist culture. It is essential to inspire the Party members and the people with the Party?s basic line, patriotism, community spirit and socialist ideology, enhance their sense of national dignity, self-confidence and self-reliance, imbue the Party members with lofty ideals of communism, resist corrosion by capitalist and feudal decadent ideas and wipe out all social evils so that our people will have lofty ideals, moral integrity, a good education and a strong sense of discipline.

 

The Communist Party of China persists in its leadership over the People?s Liberation Army and other people?s armed forces, builds up the strength of the People?s Liberation Army, and gives full play to its role in consolidating national defense, defending the motherland and participating in the socialist modernization drive.

 

The Communist Party of China upholds and promotes relations of equality, unity and mutual assistance among all ethnic groups in the country, upholds and constantly improves the system of regional ethnic autonomy, actively trains and promotes cadres from among ethnic minorities, and helps them with economic and cultural development in the areas inhabited by ethnic minorities so as to achieve common prosperity and all-round progress for all ethnic groups.

 

The Communist Party of China unites with all workers, farmers and intellectuals, and with all the democratic parties, personages without party affiliation and the patriotic forces of all ethnic groups in China in further expanding and fortifying the broadest possible patriotic united front embracing all socialist workers and all patriots who support socialism or who support the reunification of the motherland. We should constantly work to strengthen the unity of all the Chinese people, including our compatriots in Hong Kong and Macao special administrative regions and in Taiwan as well as overseas Chinese. We should accomplish the great task of reunifying the motherland in conformity with the principle of ?one country, two systems?.

 

The Communist Party of China stands for developing relations with other countries in order to bring about a favorable international environment for China?s reform, opening up and modernization. In international affairs, it adheres to the independent foreign policy of peace, safeguarding China?s independence and sovereignty, opposing hegemonism and power politics, defending world peace, and promoting human progress. It works to develop relations between China and other countries on the basis of the five principles of mutual respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity, mutual non-aggression, noninterference in each other?s internal affairs, equality and mutual benefit, and peaceful coexistence. It strives for the constant development of good-neighborly relations between China and the surrounding countries and for the strengthening of the unity and cooperation between China and other developing countries. The Communist Party of China develops relations with communist parties and other political parties in other countries in accordance with the principles of independence, complete equality, mutual respect and noninterference in each other?s internal affairs.

 

In order to lead the people of all ethnic groups in China in attaining the great goal of socialist modernization, the Communist Party of China must adhere to the Party?s basic line in strengthening and improving Party building, persist in the principle that the Party exercises self-discipline and is strict with its members, and carry forward its fine tradition and style of work. It must constantly improve its art of leadership and governance, raise its ability to resist corruption, prevent degeneration and withstand risks, constantly strengthen its class foundation, expand its mass base and enhance its creativity, cohesion and combat effectiveness, so that it will stand forever in the forefront of the times and make itself a strong nucleus that can lead all the Chinese people in the unceasing march along the road of socialism with Chinese characteristics. In building the Party, we must be determined to meet the following four essential requirements:

 

First, adhering to the Party?s basic line. The whole Party must achieve unity in thinking and in action with Deng Xiaoping Theory, the important thought of Three Represents and the Party?s basic line and will persevere in doing so for a long time to come. We must integrate the reform and the open policy with the Four Cardinal Principles, carry out the Party?s basic line in all fields of endeavor, implement in an all-round way the Party?s basic program for the primary stage of socialism and combat all ?Left? or Right erroneous tendencies, maintaining vigilance against Right tendencies, primarily against ?Left? tendencies. We must intensify the building of leading bodies at all levels, selecting and promoting cadres who have scored outstanding achievements in their public service and have won the trust of the masses in the reform, opening up and the modernization drive, and train and cultivate millions of successors to the cause of socialism, thus ensuring organizationally the implementation of the Party?s basic line and program.

 

Second, persevering in emancipating the mind, seeking truth from facts and keeping pace with the times. The Party?s ideological line is to proceed from reality in handling all matters, to integrate theory with practice, to seek truth from facts, and to verify and develop the truth through practice. Party members must adhere to this ideological line, explore new ways, boldly experiment with new methods, go in for innovation, work creatively, constantly study new situations, review new experience and solve new problems, and enrich and develop Marxism in practice.

 

Third, persevering in serving the people wholeheartedly. The Party has no special interests of its own apart from the interests of the working class and the broadest masses of the people. At all times the Party gives top priority to the interests of the people, shares weal and woe with them and keeps in closest contact with them, and it does not allow any member to become divorced from the masses or place himself above them. The Party follows the mass line in its work, doing everything for the masses, relying on them in every task, carrying out the principle ?from the masses, to the masses?, and translating its correct views into conscious action of the masses. The biggest political advantage of our Party lies in its close ties with the masses while the biggest potential danger for it as a ruling party comes from its divorce from them. The Party?s style of work and its maintenance of ties with the masses of the people are a matter of vital importance to the Party, and the Party persistently opposes corruption, exerting great efforts to improve its style of work and make itself clean and honest.

 

Fourth, upholding democratic centralism. Democratic centralism is a combination of centralism on the basis of democracy and democracy under centralized guidance. It is the fundamental organizational principle of the Party and is also the mass line applied in the Party?s political activities. Within the Party, democracy and the initiative and creativity of Party organizations at all levels as well as the vast number of Party members must be given full play. Correct centralism must be practiced so as to ensure concerted action in the whole Party and prompt and effective implementation of its decisions. The sense of organization and discipline must be strengthened, and all members are equal before Party discipline. Supervision over leading organs of the Party and over Party members holding leading positions must be strengthened and the system of inner-Party supervision constantly improved. In its internal political activities, the Party conducts criticism and self-criticism in the correct way, waging ideological struggles over matters of principles, upholding truth and rectifying mistakes. Diligent efforts must be made to create a political situation in which there are both centralism and democracy, both discipline and freedom, both unity of will and personal ease of mind and liveliness.

 

Leadership by the Party means mainly political, ideological and organizational leadership. The Party must meet the requirements of reform, opening up and the socialist modernization drive and strengthen and improve its leadership. Acting on the principle that the Party commands the overall situation and coordinates the efforts of all quarters, the Party must play the role as the core of leadership among all other organizations at the corresponding levels. It must concentrate on leading economic development, organize and coordinate all forces in a concerted effort to focus on economic development. The Party must practice democratic and scientific decision-making; formulate and implement the correct line, principles and policies; do its organizational, publicity and educational work well and make sure that all Party members play an exemplary and vanguard role. The Party must conduct its activities within the framework of the Constitution and other laws. It must see to it that the legislative, judicial and administrative organs of the state and the economic, cultural and people?s organizations work with initiative and independent responsibility and in harmony. The Party must strengthen its leadership over the trade unions, the Communist Youth League organizations, the women?s federations and other mass organizations, and give full scope to their roles. The Party must adapt itself to the march of events and changing circumstances, improving its system and style of leadership and raising its governing capacity. Party members must work in close cooperation with the vast number of non-Party people in the common endeavor to build socialism with Chinese characteristics.

 

 

Chapter I: Membership

 

Article 1 Any Chinese worker, farmer, member of the armed forces, intellectual or any advanced element of other social strata who has reached the age of eighteen and who accepts the Party?s Program and Constitution and is willing to join and work actively in one of the Party organizations, carry out the Party?s decisions and pay membership dues regularly may apply for membership in the Communist Party of China.

 

Article 2 Members of the Communist Party of China are vanguard fighters of the Chinese working class imbued with communist consciousness.

 

Members of the Communist Party of China must serve the people wholeheartedly, dedicate their whole lives to the realization of communism, and be ready to make any personal sacrifices.

 

Members of the Communist Party of China are at all times ordinary members of the working people. Communist Party members must not seek personal gain or privileges, although the relevant laws and policies provide them with personal benefits and job-related functions and powers.

 

Article 3 Party members must fulfill the following duties:

 

(1) To conscientiously study Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought, Deng Xiaoping Theory and the important thought of Three Represents, study the Party?s line, principles, policies and decisions, acquire essential knowledge concerning the Party, obtain general, scientific and professional knowledge and work diligently to enhance their ability to serve the people.

 

(2) To implement the Party?s basic line, principles and policies, take the lead in reform, opening up and socialist modernization, encourage the people to work hard for economic development and social progress and play an exemplary and vanguard role in production, work, study and social activities.

 

(3) To adhere to the principle that the interests of the Party and the people stand above everything else, subordinating their personal interests to the interests of the Party and the people, being the first to bear hardships and the last to enjoy comforts, working selflessly for the public interests and working to contribute more.

 

(4) To conscientiously observe the Party discipline, abide by the laws and regulations of the state in an exemplary way, rigorously guard secrets of the Party and state, execute the Party?s decisions, and accept any job and actively fulfill any task assigned them by the Party.

 

(5) To uphold the Party?s solidarity and unity, be loyal to and honest with the Party, match words with deeds, firmly oppose all factions and small-clique activities and oppose double-dealing and scheming of any kind.

 

(6) To earnestly engage in criticism and self-criticism, boldly expose and correct shortcomings and mistakes in work and resolutely combat corruption and other malpractices.

 

(7) To maintain close ties with the masses, disseminate the Party?s views among them, consult with them when problems arise, keep the Party informed of their views and demands in good time and defend their legitimate interests.

 

(8) To promote new socialist ways and customs and advocate communist ethics. To step forward and fight bravely in times of difficulty or danger, daring to make any sacrifice to defend the interests of the country and the people.

 

Article 4 Party members enjoy the following rights:

 

(1) To attend relevant Party meetings, read relevant Party documents, and benefit from the Party?s education and training.

 

(2) To participate in the discussion of questions concerning the Party?s policies at Party meetings and in Party newspapers and journals.

 

(3) To make suggestions and proposals regarding the work of the Party.

 

(4) To make well-grounded criticism of any Party organization or member at Party meetings, to present information or charges against any Party organization or member concerning violations of discipline or the law to the Party in a responsible way, to demand disciplinary measures against such a member, or call for dismissal or replacement of any incompetent cadre.

 

(5) To participate in voting and elections and to stand for election.

 

(6) To attend, with the right of self-defense, discussions held by Party organizations to decide on disciplinary measures to be taken against themselves or to appraise their work and behavior; other Party members may also bear witness or argue on their behalf.

 

(7) In case of disagreement with a Party decision or policy, to make reservations and present their views to Party organizations at higher levels even up to the Central Committee, provided that they resolutely carry out the decision or policy while it is in force.

 

(8) To put forward any request, appeal, or complaint to higher Party organizations even up to the Central Committee and ask the organizations concerned for a responsible reply.

 

No Party organization, up to and including the Central Committee, has the right to deprive any Party member of the above-mentioned rights.

 

Article 5 New Party members must be admitted through a Party branch, and the principle of individual admission must be adhered to.

 

An applicant for Party membership must fill in an application form and be recommended by two full Party members. The application must be accepted at a general membership meeting of the Party branch concerned and approved by the next higher Party organization, and the applicant must undergo observation for a probationary period before being granted full membership.

 

Party members who recommend an applicant must make genuine efforts to acquaint themselves with the applicant?s ideology, character, personal record and work performance and explain to each applicant the Party?s program and Constitution, qualifications for membership and the duties and rights of members, and must make a responsible report to the Party organization on the matter.

 

The Party branch committee must canvass the opinions of persons concerned, inside and outside the Party, about an applicant for Party membership and, after establishing the latter?s qualification following rigorous examination, submit the application to a general membership meeting for discussion.

 

Before approving the admission of applicants for Party membership, the next higher Party organization concerned must appoint people to talk with them, in order to get to know them better and help deepen their understanding of the Party.

 

In special circumstances, the Central Committee of the Party or the Party committee of a province, autonomous region or municipality directly under the Central Government may admit new Party members directly.

 

Article 6 A probationary Party member must take an admission oath in front of the Party flag. The oath reads: It is my will to join the Communist Party of China, uphold the Party?s program, observe the provisions of the Party Constitution, fulfill a Party member?s duties, carry out the Party?s decisions, strictly observe Party discipline, guard Party secrets, be loyal to the Party, work hard, fight for communism throughout my life, be ready at all times to sacrifice my all for the Party and the people, and never betray the Party.

 

Article 7 The probationary period of a probationary member is one year. The Party organization should make serious efforts to educate and observe the probationary members.

 

Probationary members have the same duties as full members. They enjoy the rights of full members except those of participating in voting and elections and standing for election.

 

Upon the expiration of the probationary period of a probationary member, the Party branch concerned should promptly discuss whether he is qualified for full membership. A probationary member who conscientiously performs his duties and is qualified for full membership shall be granted full membership as scheduled; if continued observation and education are needed, the probationary period may be extended, but by no more than one year; if a probationary member fails to perform his duties and is found to be unqualified for full membership, his probationary membership shall be annulled. Any decision to grant a probationary member full membership, extend a probationary period, or annul a probationary membership must be made through discussion held by the general membership meeting of the Party branch concerned and approved by the next higher Party organization.

 

The probationary period of a probationary member begins from the day the general membership meeting of the Party branch admits him as a probationary member. The Party standing of a member begins from the day he is granted full membership on the expiration of the probationary period.

 

Article 8 Every Party member, irrespective of position, must be organized into a branch, cell or other specific unit of the Party to participate in the regular activities of the Party organization and accept supervision by the masses inside and outside the Party. Leading Party cadres must attend democratic meetings held by the Party committee or leading Party members? groups. There shall be no privileged Party members who do not participate in the regular activities of the Party organization and do not accept supervision by the masses inside and outside the Party.

 

Article 9 Party members are free to withdraw from the Party. When a Party member asks to withdraw, the Party branch concerned shall, after discussion by its general membership meeting, remove his name from the Party rolls, make the removal public and report it to the next higher Party organization for the record.

 

The Party branch shall try to educate the Party member who lacks revolutionary will, fails to fulfill the duties of a Party member, or is not qualified for membership and require him to correct his mistakes within the time. If he remains incorrigible after education, he should be persuaded to withdraw from the Party. The case shall be discussed and decided by the general membership meeting of the Party branch concerned and submitted to the next higher Party organization for approval. If the Party member being persuaded to withdraw refuses to do so, the case shall be submitted to the general membership meeting of the Party branch concerned for discussion to decide on the removal of his name from the Party rolls, after which the decision shall be submitted to the next higher Party organization for approval.

 

A Party member who fails to take part in regular Party activities, pay membership dues or do work assigned by the Party for six successive months without good reason is regarded as having given up membership. The general membership meeting of the Party branch concerned shall decide on the removal of such a person?s name from the Party rolls and report it to the next higher Party organization for approval.

 

 

Chapter II: Organization System of the Party

 

Article 10 The Party is an integral body organized under its program and Constitution on the principle of democratic centralism. The basic principles of democratic centralism as practiced by the Party are as follows:

 

(1) Individual Party members are subordinate to the Party organization, the minority is subordinate to the majority, the lower Party organizations are subordinate to the higher Party organizations, and all the constituent organizations and members of the Party are subordinate to the National Congress and the Central Committee of the Party.

 

(2) The Party?s leading bodies at all levels are elected except for the representative organs dispatched by them and the leading Party members? groups in non-Party organizations.

 

(3) The highest leading body of the Party is the National Congress and the Central Committee elected by it. The leading bodies of local Party organizations are the Party congresses at their respective levels and the Party committees elected by them. Party committees are responsible, and report their work, to the Party congresses at their respective levels.

 

(4) Higher Party organizations shall pay constant attention to the views of lower organizations and the rank-and-file Party members, and solve in good time the problems they raise. Lower Party organizations shall report on their work to, and request instructions from, higher Party organizations; at the same time, they shall handle, independently and in a responsible manner, matters within their jurisdiction. Higher and lower Party organizations should exchange information and support and supervise each other. Party organizations at all levels should enable Party members to keep well informed of inner-Party affairs and to have as many opportunities as possible to involve themselves in them.

 

(5) Party committees at all levels function on the principle of combining collective leadership with individual responsibility based on division of labor. All major issues shall be decided upon by the Party committees after discussion in accordance with the principle of collective leadership, democratic centralism, individual consultations and decision by meetings. The members of the Party committees should earnestly perform their duties in accordance with the collective decisions taken and division of labor.

 

(6) The Party forbids all forms of personality cult. It is necessary to ensure that the activities of the Party leaders are subject to the supervision of the Party and the people, and at the same time to uphold the prestige of all the leaders who represent the interests of the Party and the people.

 

Article 11 The election of delegates to Party congresses and of members of Party committees at all levels should reflect the will of the voters. Elections shall be held by secret ballot. The lists of candidates shall be submitted to the Party organizations and voters for full deliberation and discussion. The election procedure in which the number of candidates nominated is greater than the number of persons to be elected may be used directly in a formal election or this procedure may be used first in a preliminary election in order to draw up a list of candidates for the formal election. The voters have the right to inquire about the candidates, demand a change or reject one in favor of another. No organization or individual shall in any way compel voters to elect or not to elect any candidate.

 

If any violation of the Party Constitution occurs in the election of delegates to a local Party congress or to Party congresses at the primary level, the Party committee at the next higher level, after investigation and verification, should decide to declare the election invalid and take appropriate measures. The decision shall be reported to the Party committee at the next higher level for checking and approval before it is formally announced and implemented.

 

Article 12 When necessary, the Central Committee of the Party and the local Party committees at all levels will convene party conferences for delegates to discuss and decide on major problems that require timely solution. The number of delegates to such conferences and the procedure governing their election shall be determined by the Party committees convening them.

 

Article 13 The formation of a new Party organization or the dissolution of an existing one shall be decided upon by the higher Party organizations.

 

The Central Committee of the Party and the local Party committees at all levels may send out their representative organs.

 

When the congress of a local Party organization at any level or the congress of Party organization at the primary level is not in session, the next higher Party organization may, when it deems it necessary, transfer or appoint responsible members of that organization.

 

Article 14 When making decisions on important questions affecting the lower organizations, the leading bodies of the Party at all levels should, under normal circumstances, solicit opinions of the lower organizations. Measures should be taken to ensure that the lower organizations can exercise their functions and powers normally. Except in special circumstances, higher leading bodies should not interfere with matters that ought to be handled by lower organizations.

 

Article 15 Only the Central Committee of the Party has the power to make decisions on major policies of a nationwide character. Party organizations of various departments and localities may make suggestions with regard to such policies to the Central Committee, but shall not make any decisions or publicize their views outside the Party without authorization.

 

Lower Party organizations must firmly implement the decisions of higher Party organizations. If lower organizations consider that any decisions of higher organizations do not suit the specific conditions in their localities or departments, they may demand modification. If the higher organizations insist on their original decisions, the lower organizations must carry out such decisions and refrain from publicly voicing their differences, but retain the right to report to the next higher Party organization.

 

Newspapers, journals and other means of publicity run by Party organizations at all levels must disseminate the line, principles, policies and decisions of the Party.

 

Article 16 When discussing and making decisions on any matter, Party organizations must keep to the principle of subordination of the minority to the majority. A vote must be taken when major issues are decided on. Serious consideration should be given to the differing views of a minority. In case of controversy over major issues in which supporters of the two opposing views are nearly equal in number, except in emergencies where action must be taken in accordance with the majority view, the decision should be put off to allow for further investigation, study and exchange of opinions followed by another vote. Under special circumstances, the controversy may be reported to the next higher Party organization for a ruling.

 

When, on behalf of the Party organization, an individual Party member is to express views on major issues beyond the scope of the existing decisions of the Party organizations, the content must be referred to the Party organization for prior discussion and decision, or referred to the next higher Party organization for instructions. No Party member, whatever his position, is allowed to make decisions on major issues on his own. In an emergency, when a decision by an individual is unavoidable, the matter must be reported to the Party organization immediately afterwards. No leader is allowed to take decisions arbitrarily on his own or to place himself above the Party organization.

 

Article 17 The central, local and primary organizations of the Party must all pay great attention to Party building. They shall regularly discuss and examine the Party?s work in publicity, education, organization and discipline inspection, its mass work and united front work. They must carefully study ideological and political developments inside and outside the Party.

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[Vonage phone and Magic Jack]

I have Vonage Internet phone service (VoIP). If I take the phone adapter (small in size, 3" X 4" X 1") and a small phone to china would I be able to use it there when I am connected to high speed Internet. It has unlimited phone service to the US and Canada, and 2 cents per minute to China. Did any of you use it?

 

How about Magic Jack. Do any of you have experience with MJ ?

 

Ken88

 

Hello ken88,

 

I would think that it will work wherever you can get a high speed internet connection.

 

I use a service from a company called BroadVoice ( www.broadvoice.com ). The features are great, I can use my own wifi voip phone to make and receive calls anywhere in the world where I can find an open high speed wireless connection. I can access my call log of all incoming and outgoing calls and download the records. I use it in China to do business and stay in touch with family here in the states all the time. The only bad thing about this company is that I would not rate their customer service as being great, I would say adequate at best. If you can overlook this they have a personal use service that allows you to call 21 countries including China as much as you want for $20 a month!

 

I have a business service plan that does not include service to China so when I use it to call there it is 3 cents per minute. I will definitely get a personal service phone plan for my sweet fianc¨¦e Haiqing when she gets here so she can stay in touch with family and friends as much as she wants. For $20 a month I think it will make her a very happy lady!

 

Best of luck,

Bob

[question regarding CCP membership]

Bob,

That's an incredible amount of work you put into researching and posting this info. Thanks for that. We didn't have any CCP issues and thus thankfully had no need to worry about it. But I'm sure others who follow will be grateful for your effort. I'm sure it'll be very useful in helping them naviagate the maze that is GUZ.

 

Hopefully one of the mods will deem it worthy of pinning.

 

Good luck in your journey.

 

Thank you Dave, you are most welcome.

 

After all the input and links other CFL members sent me on this topic I felt it would be good to give back to the community a little bit. I had wanted to include the English version of the Chinese rule book but my sweet Haiqing has not been able to find one in China yet and I did not want to hold my post any longer as I knew others were waiting.

 

If she can locate an English copy I will post it. If I must have it translated I will copy and post that instead but this may be a couple of months away.

 

Since I'll be in your neighborhood for awhile perhaps we'll cross paths and can share stories of China once my sweet Haiqing joins me here.

 

Enjoy your weekend,

Bob

[question regarding CCP membership]

its not a grey area, its a blue slip, easily overcome. Hiding it though could well turn it into a white for "misrepresentation" not worth the risk.

 

JMHO

 

I agree with you Rob, that is why I feel it so important to understand the law in both China and the US regarding this issue so questions can be answered honestly to the best of one's ability. That is our direction as we do not intend to misrepresent ourselves in any way.

 

Any questions we encounter along the way that ask about past membership will be answered with a "YES" and followed with our documentation I talked about earlier ... blue, no problem, we can deal with a blue, a white would be much more difficult and not worth the consequences ... of course pink is the goal!

 

Enjoy your weekend,

Bob

[I feel sick...]

Note: For K-Visa applicants, GUZ does not use DS-230 part 2 which has the "Communist Party" questions, so in many cases the question does not come up at interview, however if the question is asked, the best thing to do is answer honestly, because if the visa is issued, and you lied to get it, and for any reason this lie comes to light later on, USCIS can revoke a green-card, and even can revoke citizenship due to misrepresentation.

 

For K-Visas this question WILL come up later on the I-485 form used to adjust status.

 

 

 

DS-230 part 2 is used on K visas its signed on interview day in front of embassy staff

 

Any way that aside and lets forget somantics the CCP is considered a totaliterian party you really are unwise to try and hide past or present memembership it could turn a simple blue into a white for "misrepresentation" of material facts.

 

JMHO

 

Hello Rob,

 

You are right ... it's always best to answer the question honestly on any form or at the interview ... lying is not worth the risk!

 

Enjoy your weekend,

Bob

[question regarding CCP membership]

Hello everyone, I hope you're all having a great weekend!

 

I wanted to post a summary of the information I've gathered up to this point with the help of my sweet fianc¨¦e Haiqing and the many helpful members of CFL, thanks everyone! I'll try to lay this out in a manner that would be useful to other's with questions on this topic. Since we currently have this topic going in three different threads I'm going to attempt to gather them all together and summarize here in one place for simplicities sake. I'll make a short post on the other two threads to alert those who are interested.

 

I have gathered information relating to the K1 visa process because that is the path we are currently taking. Other's who are taking a different path may want to check the list of links that other members provided that I gathered below in one place for everyone's convenience.

 

Having a SO who has been or is currently a member of the CPC or CCP (Chinese Communist Party) will not necessarily keep them from getting their visa if dealt with in the proper manner. I think the key is to understand the Chinese and US laws as much as possible so all questions on the forms and all questions asked at the interview can be answered honestly. Let me say right here that I am not an attorney and I'm not trying to give anyone any advice. I'm purely sharing my own thoughts and experience on this issue and would recommend to anyone who has questions that you contact a good immigration attorney.

 

Here is a copy from the CCP rule book regarding membership guidelines, feel free to copy it and share it with your SO in China. I can not read it but you will see a sentence that my sweet Haiqing translated for me that basically states "any dues paying member who stops paying dues automatically loses their membership after six months". My sweet Haiqing has been trying to find an English copy of these rules but has not found one to date. If she finds one I will post it, if she doesn't find one I'm seriously thinking of paying to have it translated and notarized so she has it available at her interview should she need it.

 

 

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The importance of this is that since she stopped paying dues in December 2007 she is no longer considered a CCP member under Chinese law. She can now honestly answer "NO" to any question on any form or any question at her interview that ask "are you a communist party member?". That is why I think it is important for anyone who is applying for a visa who is a CCP member stop paying dues immediately. The other option would be to march in to the CCP and quit, I would recommend this to anyone who can do it. In my sweet Haiqing's case she would lose her job so not paying dues accomplishes the same thing while allowing her to be quiet about it and hopefully slip under the radar.

 

We know the issue will come up about past membership in which case she will answer honestly that she was a past member. Check my post on this thread from a few days ago about how we are going to deal with the questions on the DS-157 and GNI-2 forms that must be filled out for the K1 process.

 

This left us with one issue to deal with. When asked about past membership what documentation to show and most importantly provide proof that she quit? This is the documentation we are providing for her interview:

1) A written statement of explanation telling when, how and why she joined and quit the CCP. Included in it is wording very similar to the exception listed in the US law stating "involuntary membership for the sake of employment". We will have this notarized.

2) A copy of her resume showing jobs that required CCP membership for employment. We will have this notarized.

3) A copy of the CCP rule book that I've shown above in Chinese and English to prove her current status under Chinese law. If I have to pay to have the Chinese version translated we will have it notarized.

4) A copy of her receipt book that gets marked every time she makes a dues payment. This will show that she stopped paying dues as of December 2007 and falls within the timeline in the CCP rule book for automatic membership termination.

5) Statements from close friends and family confirming her membership as involuntary and for sake of employment.

 

Other things that would be good to provide if you can (my sweet Haiqing can not do these without losing her job) are:

1) A written statement from current or past boss stating that membership was required for employment.

2) A written statement from current of past employer stating that membership was required for employment.

3) A written statement from the CCP acknowledging your termination of membership.

 

If anyone can think of any other items that would be useful here I'd love to hear from you.

 

She has one advantage in that she falls into the age group where CCP membership was common and expected and GUZ is aware of this from what I have read. Those under 40 and especially those under 30 were given more of a choice in the matter due to more lax regulations in China at that time. IMHO I think it would be best for those who are in the younger age brackets to get as many of the things I've listed above as possible and if at all possible to quit the CCP.

 

If the question of past membership does not come up at her interview or if it does and her documentation explaining the situation is sufficient for her VO and if all else in our case is satisfactory in their eyes we should get our pink. If the question comes up and we get a blue this is ok as I will be able to wait with her in China until the overcome process takes its course and we get our pink.

 

Here is a list of all links on this topic that were provided in the three current threads:

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=29202

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...c=18469&hl=

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...c=21492&hl=

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...c=21187&hl=

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...c=24087&hl=

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...31913&st=15

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=31913

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10946

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19111

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=29202

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...ic=3331&hl=

Communist Party Membership

Beneficiary Able to Work at a Government Job?

 

Chinese political parties and social organizations:

http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/eng/ljzg/zgjk/3579/t17851.htm

 

Sorry this was on the long side, I hope everyone in this position finds the information useful and I want to thank everyone who posted their thoughts, experiences and links, I have found them all very useful.

 

Best of luck in getting pink to all,

Bob

[how many I-129 F people were asked if they are CCP]

Hello everyone,

 

I just wanted to post a short message to let everyone who is interested in this topic know that I have posted an update here: http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=31912

 

Best to all,

Bob

[I feel sick...]

Hello everyone,

 

I just wanted to post a short message to let everyone who is interested in this topic know that I have posted an update here: http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=31912

 

Best to all,

Bob

[CCP membership]

Hello everyone,

 

I just wanted to post a short message to let everyone who is interested in this topic know that I have posted an update here: http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=31912

 

Best to all,

Bob

[Language and Career Difficulties]

 

 

85% is very good. I talked to a guy in England this morning. My understanding of what he said (due to the accent) was somewhat less than that.

 

We have a guy from Scotland at work. We need a translator when talking with him.

 

Seriously, 85% is pretty close. Once he starts learning the correct version of what he learned back home, he'll do just fine.

 

Hey Randy,

 

You're right, 85% is pretty good but I usually speak with him in simple sentences and I'm very selective of the words I use because I know he doesn't understand others. He is a bright young man and when his mother and he moved to Shenzhen ten years ago when he was 8 years old, he picked up Cantonese as a second language no problem.

 

He learned English in High School but like most boys that age he did not take it seriously because he figured he would never go to the USA. He learned enough to pass the classes and didn't retain everything. Since coming to the USA has now become a reality he is busy trying to learn as much as he can as fast as he can. He is starting an English class today (Monday in China) and will be there all day for the next month. I've been emailing with him a little to give him some practice and I've asked him to share with me what he learns each day. He does pretty well reading and writing as long as he has the ability to look up words he doesn't understand, his oral skills still need work to get him ready for college.

 

He is very interested in WWII history, specifically anything to do with the Naval aspects and knows a lot about the types of ships and submarines. He can hold a pretty good conversation in English telling you all about the types of ships and how they were used.

 

If you talk with him about government, the economy, directions, the weather, music, science, math, books or anything else his understanding level is not yet ready for a college environment. He will get there, I'm sure of that.

 

I know what you mean about talking to people in English that have strong accents and having a hard time understanding them. My sweet fiancee Haiqing often says to me "your words pronounce is so clear I understand you no problem, I don't know I can understand other people speak English".

 

I have told both of them that America is a melting pot of people from all over the world and they'll get to hear English with every accent they can imagine and with a little practice, they'll understand them all.

 

Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend,

Bob

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Hi everyone,

 

I'm preparing for a somewhat similar situation with my fianc¨¦e's son who is 18 and college age. My sweet fianc¨¦e Haiqing's English is quite good as she studied it years ago in school and continues to be dedicated to learning more. Her son's English abilities are a little different. He understands about 85% of what I say to him but often does not know how to reply, his oral skills need work.

 

What I have suggested to her is that when they arrive here, her son should spend one year concentrating on learning more English through a combination of classes, tutors and a part time job where he can be exposed to English on a daily basis. Doing these things should bolster his confidence for tackling college. When he does start college I suggested to her that he start simple and maybe take an art class, which he enjoys, and maybe a History class, which he likes, and maybe even a Chinese class if the school offers it because he will do very well and it will pull up his grade point average while getting him accustomed to a college environment. Our goal is to start him slow and easy so he doesn't become overwhelmed and discouraged.

 

He has started taking English classes in China this summer, which he wanted to do, in preparation for coming here. He's a smart young man and anxious to learn so this should work to his benefit.

 

Have a great weekend,

Bob